Of course, he is a funny guy and a goof, I’m not surprised he is for anything that promotes mushrooms however inaccurate. I don’t doubt they consulted him, but the show has yet to feature any piece of info that he would have been consulted on. I’ll let you know when they actually drop a legit mushroom fact or say something that makes sense.
crystals are used to transmit and receive information over great distances quickly. electromagnetic energy. there is at least a basis for this tech in reality with a pinch of stretch. intracellular communication across a mycelia is chemical and slow and there is no basis for this tech in reality, biology or physics. That is a pretty huge difference imho. i’d probably still be able to make the leap if the tech fit into the universe the show was supposed to happen in, but nope, it is out to left field in the ST universe imho and screws with every timeline and technology.
Also, what human hubris that we discovered the most amazing thing conceivable that no other species did. It is the kind of tech that couldn’t have existed before and can’t exist after. They clevered themselves into a corner.
I’m trying. There have been a few good episodes. if they do more exploring i’ll be happier. if they wake up some giant space spider by jiggling the mycelia web then i’ll laugh. we don’t see this tech because they all get eaten, the end.
I also appreciate that the executive officers have no idea what the scientists and engineers are talking about when they say things like, “we’ll have to optimize the zeta-particle emissions to…”
Captain: “Great, sounds good, do what you do, man!”
Rather than an officer debating with a specialist for 5 minutes about HOW they are going to solve the problem, like TNG. More real-word, and actually better leadership.
I like how Babylon 5 did it. Every humanoid looking alien spoke English with an accent. The only ones consistently had subtitles were creatures who did not have human-like mouth parts.
a spore drive even being a possibility “screws with every timeline and technology” in the known universe.
how can i prove this? well let me use an answer you will accept: spore mushroom spore spore, obviously.
if they really can go anywhere in the known universe instantly, they are using the only working prototype in the field in the lamest least imaginative way possible. Who made that shitty call? Think of how a real federation would treat such an advancement. Think of all the possibilities such a technology introduces. Now look what they did.
Introducing something like this is the same kind of story breaker, like being able to recover copies of people from transport buffers, or Q. Remember “Q” from TNG? I love Star Trek, but they really need to learn from past mistakes. You can’t introduce an element that transcends all the limitations of stories you plan to tell without jumping through equally painful convoluted hoops to explain them away. poor writing choices for stories that don’t fit the universe you are creating.
No self respecting critic could love Discovery. It’s crap. Complete, utter garbage that shits all over everything Roddenberry and Trek embodied. Therefore those are not critics, they are shills, one and all. That’s just math, folks.
I’ve been watching the stream right on the FOX website. They have something like the most recent 3-5 episodes available. And honestly, it’s the second half so far that’s gotten really good. The first few episodes were kinda rough.
But I am a lifetime Trekkie who will literally wrestle anyone who says Voyager was a bad show. I have owned more than one Starfleet uniform. I can quote portions of every series from memory and have seen every moment of ST on film- Including the cartoon series- At least three times through. I got the jokes in Galaxy Quest that went over the heads of everyone who hasn’t done the convention circuit. Oh, yeah- And I did the convention circuit way back in the 90s.
I have absolutely zero interest in Discovery, but I look forward to the new Orville as practically the high point of my week. I absolutely love it.
The thing I loved about Seven was that ST has always used the unemotional outsider as a way of exploring humanity (Spock, Data, T’Pol), but she was the only one to really call them out on it. The scene where she gives Janeway the whole “you taught me to be an individual, and then when I deviate from the norm, I’m punished” speech is legitimately one of my favorite ST moments of all time.
What is with the Klingons? Remember in the day they looked like Puerto Ricans and they dressed in gold lame Now they look like heavy metal rockers from the dead with frizzy hair and leather pants and lobsters on their heads…
Here’s something interesting - In overseas markets, where Orville is relegated to separate(and usually expensive) services where you can get it, a lot of people seem to think it’s basically just the same tired Seth McFarlane schtick, basically A Million Ways to Die in the West but in Space(Which isn’t entirely fair, but it’s what I’m hearing/seeing a lot of).
Discovery is just right there on Netflix, and people fucking love it, they’re well into seeing a non-traditional Star Trek, shaking things up a little while retaining the exploratory spirit of previous series with Kelvin Timeline-ish flair.
Opinions are almost exactly opposite to the ones in this comment section here, which is primarily people from the US, where Orville is trivially available, but Discovery is off on CBS’s streaming service that means paying extra per month. So, that’s an interesting little side note.
(Though, of course I am absolutely discounting the opinions of a large amount of folk who have been calling Discovery “SJW Trek”, because it’s got a black woman in it and sometimes deals with issues of race, otherness, has a gay couple on screen, and so on - because their opinions aren’t worth the time to consider. Also inb4 the inevitable “But I’m from outside the US and I don’t like Discovery, So there!” reply.)
I mean we’ve already seen a faster-than-warp concept technology that didn’t work: the spore drive just fails in much more dramatic modes than the Excelsior’s transwarp drive sputtering out like a car with no fuel.
For me too. I understand Seth MacFarlane has his style of humor, but an Orville with more subtle humor would be great IMO. Then again, if it were like that it probably wouldn’t sell as well to a Fox prime-time viewership, which, let’s face it, likes dick jokes and bro humor. It’s just a bummer for someone who loves to basically see a TNG vibe back on tv again.
Those critics vs viewer ratings are pretty damning.
Unfortunately, I don’t get The Orville but I get ST: Discovery for free (on Netflix), so that’s what I’m watching. I’m not a fan of Seth McFarlane, but the rave reviews that The Orville is getting do make me wish I could watch it.
In my headcanon, that breath lock was meant to be broken. It was used in such a way that M. Bernham could not help but notice, and conveniently given a way to get past it. Not so much a security protocol as a puzzle test for her to solve, to make her want to find out what’s going on. She was being manipulated. I felt as as if Captain Lorca was a card-carrying member of Evil Geniuses For A Better Tomorrow.
I think Lorca is Section 31 because not only is he up to shit but because it gives them an out for the spore drive that’s more than “Oops. We broke it.”
