I meant that they were shaped like tubes, or sleeves, not that they were used as such, The opening was close to waist/ hip level. The end effect that was a lot of things would fit, and they would not fall out.
(They may have been an anachronistic solution adopted by modern reenactors, frankly)
Because we are BOLD COWBOYS, riding the range. Did you not get the memo?
@Max_Blancke, I meant if somebody’s going to get attacked, somebody’s going to get attacked first, so why not me and the other folks who are dressed like they might be carrying? I see no downside, and it lets us guys running point swagger around like bold cowboys. Which, as I previously pointed out, is why we wear pants instead of more anatomically functional skirts.
thanks, didn’t know this word. and dress shoes are part of the VIPs-are-around costume, normally his feet looks like this
I would still like like know why all Americans (#notallamericans) wear white sports socks all the time.
I don’t believe in gendered clothing or styles.
How I got into cargo shorts was in my bike messenger days (this seems to be coming up a lot, lately) when my typical bottom was cycling tights. But I needed pockets. I had a bag with lots of pockets, and this was readily accessible half the time - unless I had ten packages from my biggest customer, or a few giant packs of X-ray film. Sometimes I really needed quick access to money, a small tool, pens, etc without needing to disturb whatever was in my bag.
I didn’t even know that cargo shorts were a thing. What I did was make cargo shorts by buying surplus military parachute pants. I bought them oversize, trimmed and hemmed them to about knee length. They were made of rip-stop nylon. The pockets in these were good quality and obviously meant for use rather than show, with pleats and buttoned flaps on top. I made a deluxe set for winter which were made from a pair of German MP pants, which were wool about 1/4" thick.
Last month I was looking at cargo shorts in a few stores which were terrible quality compared to what I had. The fabric, cut, stitching, everything basically was both unflattering and impractical.
When you go to other cultures, it doesn’t seem to be as much of a problem. White toe socks and sandals in traditional Japanese culture – completely acceptable:
The Romans also were known to wear socks with their sandals:
“I have sent you … pairs of socks from Sattua, two pairs of sandals and two pairs of underpants,” said the message on a tablet found at Vindolanda on the Roman wall.
So a type of fusion fashion would seem to be a possible way around the rule:
I have to agree. It needs a strap or whats the point? Id rather have like a bag bag. Even a shopping bag. But people keep buying clutches because - what ever their reasons are. Otherwise no one would sell them and they would only be used by hipsters as an ironic statement.
I guess they keep a variety of small things together-- keys, credit cards, cosmetics, maybe a tampon --while looking interesting.
'Twas not my vest, it belongs to @anon36081309.
see wading in way too late… apologies to @anon36081309
I think Scottevest beat you to it.
I have one of their jackets and it has 3! ‘Pen pockets’.
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when I make a hip pocket on a pair of trousers or a skirt, that pocket has 3 layers of fashion fabric and 1 of pocketing, between the outside and the inside…
For that same pocket an average ready to wear garment would have 5 layers of fashion fabric and three of pocketing[/quote]
Can you explain to a non-expert why the extra fabric is necessary for the off-the-peg stuff?
BTW, this whole thread reminds me of Book II of Penguin Island:
To clothe the penguins is a very serious business. At present when a penguin desires a penguin he knows precisely what he desires and his lust is limited by an exact knowledge of its object. At this moment two or three couples of penguins are making love on the beach. See with what simplicity! No one pays any attention and the actors themselves do not seem to be greatly preoccupied. But when the female penguins are clothed, the male penguin will not form so exact a notion of what it is that attracts him to them. His indeterminate desires will fly out into all sorts of dreams and illusions; in short, father, he will know love and its mad torments. And all the time the female penguins will cast down their eyes and bite their lips, and take on airs as if they kept a treasure under their clothes! . . . what a pity!
No, I have a real one. The pic is just representative.
I don’t think skirts would be fun when scrambling around in the brush and rocks. Buttons and zippers pretty much solve the functionality problem.
Then men only get one pocket! No fair!
It’s kind of hard to explain, sewing is so visual in nature. The simple answer is, ready to wear will always have a seam where the front piece meets the turned under facing at the pocket mouth.
The complicated answer:
When making trousers/skirts one step at a time you take the front piece which is cut to include the facing (it prevents you from seeing the pocketing at the pocket mouth - not present in most jeans). The fashion fabric folds back on itself to cover the pocketing material and is secured with stay tape included in the fold - there isn’t a seam here. Then the pocket is folded in half and the insert is attached at the appropriate place to complete the front of the pants, then the pocket is shaped however you want it (shallow, curved, coin pocket, etc). This Front+Pocket assembly is then sewn to the rear piece immediately to secure everything in place - otherwise everything just falls apart. It’s the most time consuming and fiddly bit of making trousers and none of the pieces can be sent down an assembly line once you start work.
With ready to wear, they cut a pocket shape and attach the facing and insert to it, then sew this onto the front piece of the trousers, thus there is an extra seam at the mouth of the pocket, adding bulk where least needed. The only time I would use this process is if piping were desired at the mouth of the pocket - I’ve only done this a few times.
In the 90s, as a crusty, bus-livin’ punk, I used to rock a utility belt fashioned from a leather .303 rifle bandolier. It was fucking great. Soooo many pockets! I even had one with a mylar blanket for emergencies.
You’re my favorite person right now. You should know that.
I wear skirts on the regular, and have made many skirts for guy-shapes in my day. I identify as a cis male but am very comfortable in skirts, usually a heavy twill or canvas and slightly shorter than a kilt is cut. It’s an extremely practical garment!
Here’s a company that brought one out awhile back: http://skirtcraft.com/
I also do a lot of sewing for folks who’ve transitioned, those who are non-binary, and drag performers. I specialize in fitting anyone into any garment in any size, which is really where all the work is in custom garment sewing these days. That and costumes.
Doctor Watson carried his handkerchief in his sleeve, because he was used to being a military officer.
