The Sun publishes 1933 film of Edward VIII teaching Nazi salute to Queen

If you look into the history it was this be-like-them influence of Abraham Geiger which started the Reform movement, he was a believer of the Jew as strictly a citizen of their nation, and should act as one, and not a member of a Jewish people worldwide. For many years this movement did succeed in mainstreaming Jews especially in Germany. This Reform which was lead in the US by higher society minded German-Jewish immigrants from the 1850s through the 60s and 70s though peaking between the 30s and 50s. I still have old family books from the 30s, 40s, and 50s which were more about American Fox News grade patriotism than the Passover, Hanukkah, or other topic they were supposed to be about.
I have a bigger problem with the organized Jewish community in the US including clergy across the spectrum conspiring to not publicise or agitate against the Holocaust or for aggressive rescue or even permitting emergency(or even legally permitted limits to be filled) for fear of their own position in society. Current Reform is certainly not that of Abraham Geiger being strongly influenced by civil rights and the counterculture movement infecting the formerly very conservative(though politically liberal for the time) Hebrew Union College(leading Reform ordination seminary) but I feel his theory of suppressing ourselves was a major cause of the self disgust, bad body image, and self suppression seen in Jews of previous American generations despite our successes in many fields.

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God Save The Queen

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Johnny called it…

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So, apparently you are completely oblivious to the selection process for Time’s person of the year cover.

Newsmaker of the year. To discover whether this is a compliment or an insult, or something in between, read the article.

You seem to want to argue about something that isn’t being argued. Good luck with that.

What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to Germany in less than six years was applauded wildly and ecstatically by most Germans. He lifted the nation from post-War defeatism. Under the swastika Germany was unified. His was no ordinary dictatorship, but rather one of great energy and magnificent planning. The “socialist” part of National Socialism might be scoffed at by hard-&-fast Marxists, but the Nazi movement nevertheless had a mass basis. The 1,500 miles of magnificent highways built, schemes for cheap cars and simple workers’ benefits, grandiose plans for rebuilding German cities made Germans burst with pride. Germans might eat many substitute foods or wear ersatz clothes but they did eat. What Adolf Hitler & Co. did to the German people in that time left civilized men and women aghast. Civil rights and liberties have disappeared. Opposition to the Nazi regime has become tantamount to suicide or worse. Free speech and free assembly are anachronisms. The reputations of the once-vaunted German centres of learning have vanished. Education has been reduced to a National Socialist catechism.Pace Quickened. Germany’s 700,000 Jews have been tortured physically, robbed of homes and properties, denied a chance to earn a living, chased off the streets. Now they are being held for “ransom,” a gangster trick through the ages. But not only Jews have suffered. Out of Germany has come a steady, ever-swelling stream of refugees, Jews and Gentiles, liberals and conservatives, Catholics as well as Protestants, who could stand Naziism no longer. TIME’S cover, showing Organist Adolf Hitler playing his hymn of hate in a desecrated cathedral while victims dangle on a St. Catherine’s wheel and the Nazi hierarchy looks on, was drawn by Baron Rudolph Charles von Ripper (see p. 20), a Catholic who found Germany intolerable. Meanwhile, Germany has become a nation of uniforms, goose-stepping to Hitler’s tune, where boys of ten are taught to throw hand grenades, where women are regarded as breeding machines. Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on others what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for foodstuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.

Adolf Hitler, Man of the Year, 1938

I think you needed to reply to @anon27007144

Yeah, I guess the point I was trying to make was that people unable to put the Queen’s salute in its proper context are probably also unable to put the Time Magazine article in its context.

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Well, the medium is the message. A few minutes of footage smuggled out of an archive that isn’t about to let you have more versus “one headline leading to a rather critical story that references other articles that can be read for even more context.”

I caught a bit about this on the radio news last night. For ‘balance’ they interviewed someone from the Institute for Historical Review (IHR). Seems about right :unamused:

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It’s not luck. It’s skill! It also happens to be my profession. XD

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