I feel something needs to be done fast on the case of North Korea president with his huge threat. UN needs to act fast
And as long as China who has veto power finds NK a useful stooge and buffer with South Korea despite all the headache it causes them I donāt see much of anything happening.
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Yes, when oh when will he finally come to his senses and submit to his country becoming yet another big de facto U.S. military base, like South Korea already is? How dare the North Koreans try to run a country differently from the U.S. capitalism kleptocracy model? Are they ever going to finally get tired of being punished for that?
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Yes @TobinL Thats what am about sayingā¦China is the main country UN needs to lobby. Apart from the fact that China is the most respected, a large number of NK trade is to China. Without China, NK is likely to fallā¦
Meh. Why? Okay they are an awful state. Saudi Arabia and itās neighbors are not much nicer and the world seems to not give a fuck about them either as long as they are useful tools and I imagine there are plenty of other small states that do awful things to their citizens that we just donāt hear about.
It it an ideal world no. But then it never has been.
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Are you trying to say that US is not doing it right?
But thatās the problem, nobody wants it to fall. Nobody.
If NK falls who takes charge? Reincorporating the NK population into the SK would devastate the SK economy, China doesnāt need more people and landmass. Would the US swoop in and take control? China and Russia would not like that at all.
China benefits from the Status Quo, they donāt want a belligerent NK either, thoughtlessly provoking your neighbors instability is a regressionary tactic. The only long term solution is for NK to prosper.
What is your take on this? What do you think NK is after here?
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The US is doing what the US does.
But just taking out NK is dumb and not simple. Do we want to sacrifice Seoul? Cause any attempt to invade will have NK open up with its very well protected and numerous batteries of conventional artillery and damn near level that city. China sure as fuck does not want what would be a flood of refugees.
Yes he is bad. The problem is like all the other shitty regimes out there right now the fallout of āfixing itā is worse.
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I feel NK is not happy at US being the most powerfulā¦they fee US is doing too muchā¦they interfer in countries affairs with the sole aim of exploiting them.
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How voluntary is membership in the north korean ingroup?
Do you have any other sources?
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How voluntary for South Koreans is U.S. military presence and control?
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So what do you think they want? What do you think is their end goal with all these missile tests?
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At this stage Iād rather China take a more direct role in North Korea. Doesnāt matter if North Korea allies itself with China, Russia, the illuminatiā¦ Just I want their government to stop fucking their people over .Basic standards of living increase, less of a blatantly āunless you are of the elite or people we wish to impress you live in starvation and listen to propaganda so beyond outlandish itād be laughable if you werenāt terrified of dying and having your organs harvested.ā
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Thereās an article in the New Yorker where the interviewer complains that the US military is occupying too much good land.
"The U.S. military base near my apartment is prime real estate. Koreans are living in such highly concentrated apartments surrounding the base, and then you go in, and itās the suburbs of Los Angeles. Itās spread outāthere are lawns and two-story homes. Thereās a complete wall. Itās a fortress, just like the U.S. Embassy is a fortress. People are so used to it that they donāt think about a foreign military occupying the country.ā
On the other hand,
Note the part about conscription.
but unless Iām misinterpreting thingsā¦
consists of 28500 personnel,
the Korean peopleās Army
consists of 950,000 active personnel, 600,000 in reserves, and 5.9 million paramilitaries.
soā¦ āmilitary presence and controlāā¦
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