Well, you’ll have one of two choices and if she’s on the ballot, it is her or a Republican. Seems pretty clear to me.
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I have no doubt that he won’t replace her on the ballot.
[/quote]You should have at least some doubts about that…
more:
Bernie can win.
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Oh sure it does.
[/quote]Er, no… it’s a lot of misinformed babble.
For example, you quoted from the article:
"… how reluctant he seems to mention the thoroughly corporatized Democratic Party as part of the problem. … "
That’s outright bullshit. This uneducated writer and yourself should, well… educate yourselves on Bernie Sanders before pretending to speak from authority on him:
" … the Democratic party has moved, you know. It used to be a center-left party — Truman, Roosevelt — it was the party of the American working class. I don’t think there are many people who think that is the case now. It is far better [than the Republican Party], and there are some great people in the Democratic Party who spend an enormous amount of time and energy fighting for working people, and I work with those guys. But I don’t think anybody would say, as a whole, that the Democratic Party is the party of the American working class." — Bernie Sanders
Just one example of many anyone can find. Sanders has repeatedly criticized Obama and most of the rest of the Democratic party on those grounds.
Another part you quoted:
" … Nowhere in the two Bernie talks I have attended this year has Sanders voiced a single word against the nation’s massive Pentagon system of permanent war and empire … "
That’s rather dense of the writer to put so much weight on a mere “two talks” that were heard. The reality is Bernie Sanders has repeatedly and vociferously spoken out against our military-industrial complex and imperialism.
Unlike Hillary Clinton, Bernie stood against the Iraq war when it counted, for example:
I mean, is this writer fucking kidding? He needs to educate himself on Sanders’ voting record:
http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Bernie_Sanders_War_+_Peace.htm
- Voted NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date.
- Voted NO on designating Iran’s Revolutionary Guards as terrorists.
- Voted NO on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops.
- Repeatedly voted to REMOVE troops from Iraq.
- Voted NO on authorizing military force in Iraq.
- Voted YES on disallowing the invasion of Kosovo.
- Condemns anti-Muslim bigotry in name of anti-terrorism.
- Voted YES to require Congress’ approval before military action in Iran.
And, yes… he was AGAINST military action in Syria when Obama and Kerry tried to hype it up:
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-reacts-to-presidents-speech-on-syria
Indeed…
Sorry, but that counterpunch article you quoted is a crock of shit.
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Can we get a new thread about free college?
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Ich bin ein Amerikaner. (Also a pastry in Germany.)
Also it’s less of an issue that humanities classes are still in German because humanitites students have, on average, spent more time studying language.
Does it mean that you are what you eat?
One can’t, however, ignore STEM and have a high probability of getting into med school. A few semesters of Calc or Stats, Chem up to Organic Chem, some Biology.
I think I’ll ride the Bernie Train 'till it stops.
Lefties in the US have this sort of abused-dog tendency to shoot themselves in the foot sometimes. “Oh, we’ll never get what we REALLY want, so lets just compromise and agree on that?” (and then the Reps don’t compromise and we wind up with rightwing dinkuses who can claim with a straight face that they’re “middle-of-the-road” because they’re less extreme than the true nutbags in the party)
Hillary is a bit of a compromise right out the gate. We KNOW she’s not the greatest, we just figure she’s pretty solid and “first woman president!” would have a nice ring to it and there ain’t no way JoeBob Ohio is going to vote for Bernie anyway, so…blahblahblah.
If her candidacy is really inevitable, I’ve got nothing to lose by backing Bernie now. 
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So you don’t want to support someone who might not win…
I’m pretty sure that’s the reason we have such crappy politicians running things - people who think their vote is a bet and only want to bet on winners… sad
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Just for the record, in Germany neither a STEM degree nor one in the humanities will get you into “med school”. You sign up straight out of high school and your grades better be good.
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Sounds like a fair deal… I’m definitely looking into this immediately. I don’t care if it’s in English. I am more than happy to learn German to avoid the ridiculous hamster wheel I’m getting roped into.
GOOD! I’m so sick of taking classes with pre-meds. I don’t care what med schools look for. I don’t want to go to med-school, and frankly never appreciated the way certain courses were geared towards med school acceptance like it was the most important thing in the world.
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Just so you know, I was responding to a known and very tired insult against getting a liberal arts degree in the U.S.
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Sadly, not anymore…the banks got their hooks into it.
If he could win, I’d vote for him, of course, and if by some magic he could win the nomination, of course I would. But he clearly won’t; he’ll end up helping horrendous Hillary instead (as explained above).
It’s early, so who knows what final choices we’ll eventually be presented with. And speaking of “sad,” it’s sad how everyone here seems resigned to the evil of two lessers, as if no other parties exist. Even Bernie, who holds “socialist” principles but is running as a Democrat. Yes, other parties are a long shot, an impossiblity basically, but despite the trumpetings of the Huffington Post, so is Bernie. When it comes down to it, I’m just not sure yet whether I’ll throw my vote away on a third-party vote of conscience, or on an evil-of-two-lessers vote of resignation.
Do you live in a state where there’s a likelihood your vote would be relevant anyway?
Actually no. The Dem always wins here.
Must be all those folk casting a vote of resignation…
One thing that is different in the German system is that there is more separation between subjects and generally you will only share classes with people from a very small number of closely related subjects. That happens even in cases where it wouldn’t really be necessary. For example, many, many people have to take a statistics lecture, but in my case that was “Statistics for computational linguists” with perhaps a dozen people in the room. In addition to that there are no general education requirements at the university level, because the default route to university is via a school that is supposed to have covered that.
If you are seriously considering this, then it could be an interesting option. Unfortunately there are two major hurdles. First there are the language requirements. Undergrad program in English exist, but they are rare. Grad school much less of a problem. The level of German required varies between subjects and departments, both on paper and in practice, but you will need some language certification for a German-language program. The other big issue is that if you are here on a student visa, you are required to show funding for one year of living expenses at a time in advance. That can mean that you have to put about EUR 8000 into an escrow account. You are allowed to work (limited hours) while studying, but that won’t absolve you of the requirements.
But I don’t mean to discourage you. It can still be a very good deal and it is reasonably nice here.
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Pre-med students are about the worst thing that could have happened to US STEM education, yet there it is.
The poster downthread is correct that most programs are in German. A friend of mine got into an EE program a year ago, has spent the last year learning German, and just got word he’d passed the German test. Now he can proceed to the EE program is free. Learning German and living in Germany was not free.
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