Great advice. The beautiful part of eating less carbs is that it means you can eat so much more food and still lose weight. Feeling hungry all the time is not a good dieting strategy.
I was quoting Ronald David Laing.
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The leading cause of death is being born. Life is a fatal condition, maybe one day they will find a cure, but till then, pass the pancetta.
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So this conversation isn’t a new thing. There have been studies, and counter studies and interpretation of studies on this meat or no meat thing for a long time.
It’s a very poor study that at best will lead us to better studies and as the article points out:
“We don’t have a great explanation for why this is, except for a big shrug that says “some people’s bodies react differently to certain foods.””
Self reporting in studies are notoriously problematic. For example, is a hot dog red meat? It sure is red. So is someone who eats Oscar Meyer hot dogs all the time eating the same red meat as someone who sources naturally raised (loaded term I know) grass fed beef? Lamb?
Another example: I ate a hamburger for lunch! That’s red meat. Sure it is. But it’s also a bun, bunch of sugar if you put ketsup on it etc.
Nutrition reporting is a very tricky business right now and basically what I’ve learned is that WE DON’T REALLY KNOW ENOUGH YET.
Genetics plays a huge roll in this as well.
I think the paleo diet’s used car salesman pitch really works well with any diet: Go on the diet for 30 - 60 days. See how you feel, look and perform and then make an evaluation to continue or not."
The headline to the Popular Science article is clickbait nonsense and strongly misrepresents the study: Low-carb diets lose their benefits when you go hard on animal products
At the very least, they need to put “may” in there.
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Thank you for sharing your story. It is generous of you to relate that to us.
One of the things that nutrition research has failed to account for: happiness. A common thread in most of the cultural diets that have been found to be longevity-positive is that food is to be enjoyed - even savored - often with family or friends. The diets that have been found to be most longevity-negative are associated with stress eating and isolation.
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This is a epidemiology study and it is proven baseless.
The healthiest diet for humans is a carnivore diet, checkout meatheals.com and shawn baker, watch him on Joe Rogan, and be free from autoimmune disease, gut issues, bad skin, general lack luster energy. Be healthy and thrive on meat. It is what we have evolved to eat, and our bodies love us for it.
Maybe don’t have fatty red meat when you have red meat. Lower fat ground beef, a lean cut of steak & cut off the fat. Don’t always have red meat. There’s no law against fowl, fish and vegetarian meals.
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If I have to watch him on Joe Rogan - I’ll learn to live without.
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My first comment ever on boingboing (pre-bbs!) was to complain about a NEW nutritional study. *wipes tear from eye* I came in hot and was a bit angry and trollish in tone, and have since cleaned up my act, but my frustration at nutrition studies remains.
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Don’t forget dementia! The longer you live the more likely you are to develop it.
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worrying about advice from food Nazis is hazardous to your mental and physical health. Cut out sugar, minimize carbs, eat a fruit and a vegetable daily. It’s a lot easier than quitting tobacco and 
I don’t miss soda, pizza or french fries anymore.
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I asked some of my left wing friends if drinking hydrofluoric acid was a bad idea, everyone agreed that it was.
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Any one study doesn’t provide definitive proof of anything. This post indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of the process of science.
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I wonder if worrying about your diet stresses people out, thus making them less healthy.
Certainly all the people I know who pay attention to what food they eat seem to worry about it a lot, and don’t seem any more healthy. Mind you, I’m one of those much reviled people who can eat basically whatever with no effects.
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The link between red meat and cancer - especially various intestinal cancers - has been well established for a while, among other things by comparing the occurrence of these cancers across cultures with different rates of meat in their diets. These types of cancer are almost unheard of in East Asia, where red meat is rare, and the intake of vegetables and white meat is noticeably higher than in the West. Not that correlation implies causality, but at least from the studies I’ve seen summarized, this has been pointed to as one of the most likely causes.
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- Naturalistic fallacy
- false
There doesn’t seem to be much data either way on healthiness or otherwise of an all-meat diet, though there does seem to be a lot of variability in how human bodies react to various diets. I would tend to suspect some people would do very well on all-meat diets and some wouldn’t.
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I’m a shark, I’m a shark…
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My great-grandfather lived to 90. He was a carpenter and the son of a Missouri sharecropper. Little German fella, about 5’4" but with a set of hands like Shaquille O’Neal. Every morning my Great Grandmother (who passed in '12 at the age of 95) made him half a pack of bacon and six eggs in her cast iron skillet and half a loaf of heavily buttered white bread toast or scratch biscuits. Every night he had two pieces of pie and a scoop of Ice cream. He might have weighed 160 when he passed.
Every one of their 9 children ate like this, and with the exception of two smokers who died of lung cancer, they’re all still alive, including the oldest, my now nearly 90 year old grandmother.
The difference? They worked their asses off. It’s simple. If you’re going to eat like a field hand, you have to exercise like a field hand. A 3500 calorie diet, whether you’re vegan or carnivore, is going to kill you stone dead if you are sedentary.
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