Today's mass shootings

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There was a slight peek of sunshine at the end:

Police eventually expanded the crime scene after a crowd gathered near the tape. A woman was frantically on the phone with her teenage daughter and asked police to find her on the other side of the scene. After, an officer escorted the daughter to her. The woman leaned against a trash can, becoming emotional and saying she was so anxious to find her daughter. The teenager comforted her.

Two reasons:

  • CPD treating a Black woman with kindness instead of harassment really stands out because it is not the norm, but wouldn’t it be wonderful (and the right thing to do) if this did become the norm?;

  • They didn’t mention the race of the mom and her daughter. There was no need (as one might argue in the case of trying to identify a suspect). The norm has been to always mention if someone is a person of color, or a woman doing a ‘man’s job’, etc. So changing this is a step in the right direction.

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Sitting right there with you, on the south side of Chicago.

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NRA bringing the WTF last night.

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They will jump to defend the asshole lawyers, but on the NFAC? Crickets. Oh, and good to see David Hogg still keeping on them!

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ONE BULLET CAME RIGHT INTO MY ROOM’ NE PORTLAND APARTMENT COMPLEX RIDDLED WITH MORE THAN 150 BULLETS

Wouldn’t be surprised at it being boogaloo.

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Well, the 2020 Race War isn’t going to start itself! (/s)

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Weird how low-key the local coverage is for that story. It’s below the fold on Oregonlive.com, and only has a two-paragraph write up. SMH.

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that one box is super odd. the date says 8, feb (2), 20. reversing the meaning of the day and the month. the actual date is aug(8), 2, 20. hmmm

also, i didn’t know shootings like that in portland were a thing!

i do see the article mentions the disbanded gang task force, and i remember reading an issue with them was that they did a lot of stop and search of people’s cars. only of course the majority of people they pulled over were black in a majority white town, and that most of their searches didn’t lead to arrest.

wouldn’t have hurt the reporter to have mentioned that

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Shootings in portland are, sadly, very common.

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It looks pretty safe compared to other cities.

Doesn’t even make the list - top 66.

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For murder? Sure.

But shootings? No, we’re pretty high. And there’s also the problem that the Portland Police Bureau changed how they handle gun crimes after Jo Ann Hardesty (commissioner) disbanded the gang unit and the gun violence units. So now we’re counting ones we should have counted before, but the units were recording much lower numbers to “show improvement.”

It’s also worth noting that we generally have issues with police statistics under former chief Diane Outlaw. A lot of the books are getting reopened and the cases being re-analyzed.

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I find it hard to believe that there’s a difference in shooters’ accuracy between lethal and non lethal shootings compared to every other city.

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You can believe what you want to believe. It’s likely things aren’t getting reported to the police (or the police aren’t reporting it fully, or people aren’t counting the entire metro area). Our police are not trustworthy to report the stats, and they’ve been caught in the past fudging statistics. What we have to go on are basically news papers aggregating stories after the fact, tv stations (one of which is owned by Fox that wants to make us sound worse), and citizen reporting like PDXAlerts (https://twitter.com/pdxalerts)

This has been made even harder by the police uniformly moving to encrypted radio and slow playing police reports as a result of the “defund the police” movement.

I wasn’t asking permission. And you weren’t giving any actual evidence.

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Uh, I live here. Please don’t correct me about it. Shootings are less frequent than in other cities of similar size, bigger cities, and smaller ones.

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In journalism school they don’t teach them where to put the story for 150 bullets, 1 injury, no deaths

The real pull quote should be where Aragon Marks said “I don’t know what they were aiming at.”

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I live here too! Neat :smiley:

And you can ask Alex Hardgrave about the number of shootings and how the PPB has changed how they count them. When you do, they’ll tell you all about how a lot of them weren’t being recorded and now are, and how PPB intentionally misled the press for a long, long time on it.