I think you’re missing my point - there are things more prevalent than guns, more dangerous than guns, more deadly than guns, but not as emotionally impactful as guns. Its like a plane crash - they’re big news, they’re big numbers in one place. But automotive traffic is still less safe than plane travel, it’s just that the deaths are so distributed we don’t register them.
Numbers are boring.
I’m also intrigued that @Mister44 is about the only one who had said “hunh I didn’t know that” this whole thread.
I agree with that. She should have kept it on her person. IMHO. Of course I got in trouble for victim blaming and I am not trying to do that here. I am pointing out what I think is the safe thing to do.
Or your point being they are the ones most often used in crimes? Yes that is true too.
finally an honest statement. thanks.
and, no, i still think that handguns are primarily bought for defense, not sport (and not primarily for committing crimes, either). just because they haven’t been actively employed for defense means nothing. with that reasoning, one could conclude that fire extinguishers are not meant to extinguish fires (well over 99% are never actually used for this purpose!) but rather to decorate hallways.
you’re either a liar, a coward, or a moron. i’ve had it with you.
If I own 5 hand guns, and keep one available for defense, where are the other 4? Unloaded and locked up, right? When I shoot them, how many time have I had to for defense? So far none. Hopefully none forever. I have shot them thousands of time for target shooting and competition. Almost all of my guns are set up with additions specifically for competition or target shooting.
Now I am sure some people only have a gun like a fire extinguisher - just in case. But people who actually use their guns as a hobby - and that a lot of gun owners, defense is only one aspect. When they think about using their guns its for fun or sport. I guess you have the subset of shooters who do think about using them for hunting. And people DO hunt with hand guns. I just read an article about big game hunting with one not long ago. They also make good bear repellant.
So yeah - point is - lots of users for lots of different things. And most of the time its in a safe manner.
ETA - oh and I lot of pro-gun people like to bang the “self defense” drum because what jerk is going to say “no you can’t protect yourself and your loved ones”. I’ve tried to approach it from a different angle that the way most guns are being used is for sports and rec. It’s FUN. That’s why people go shooting. If you’re not exposed to that aspect you have no clue about it. Guns aren’t portrayed for their mundane every day uses on TV.
Supposedly the purse was actually designed and sold for concealed carry.
“It was designed for that purpose — to carry a concealed firearm,” the victim’s father-in-law Terry Rutledge told the Washington Post. “And you had to unzip a compartment to find the handgun.”
Yes but it should still be in your possession, especially around kids. To me this doesn’t sound like a “back was turned for a second” thing, but one where he had time to explore and rummage. From a defense stand point having it not accessible to you defeats the purpose of carrying in the first place.
Yes, there are private pool laws, just as there are laws concerning guns. Both can cause tragic accidents. Fences are a precaution that sadly don’t stop all accidents.
True, but that chance of you getting shot completely at random accidentally is extremely low. Like fly into a building low. Of course you can see the overreactions to that.
How often do muggings occur in Idaho that this woman, that doesn’t understand how a safety works or that your shouldn’t chamber a round and then leave her weapon unattended, felt the need to carry a gun everywhere?
Maybe she needed it for shooting rattlesnakes and vermin that she cooked for dinner.
See, but the things you keep at home, like a pool, should be less regulated than the things you do in public where they can hurt other people, like cars, public drinking, operate a business.
The problem is that the conceal/carry laws are essentially deregulating the public usage of a very dangerous item.
This is just one instance of a terrible accident, which is hard to draw conclusions from. But then again, we might have better information on such things if the gun lobby didn’t block the department of health from tracking data on gun related deaths and injuries.
How on earth is the gun lobby stopping anyone from tracking statistics? The government does track accidental deaths per year, including those from firearms. IIRC the CDC puts out numbers every year. IIRC its about 800 a year, though that isn’t broken down on how or where.
No one needs a license to carry a concealed gun. Criminals do it every day. Many of them un-holstered in a waistband or pocket. People with a CCW license at least go through some training and a background check and at least get a holster or bag to carry it in . But yeah, accidents happen. A few freak accidents though shouldn’t condemn the hundreds of thousand who carry legally and safely every day.
I just provided a link where a high-profile public figure had to APOLOGIZE for saying “all lives matter.” And that proves nothing?
BTW: I just found that the linked article was behind a paywall. Just google [“all lives matter” college apology] for a large number of articles on the subject, and then explain how me providing a very public example of “no one” is proves nothing.
Whatever you are smoking is illegal in 48 out of the 50 states.
Hoo boy, I see, so the real problem is all that feelthy libruls, grrrr!
Context context, my potentially good man! President McCartney didn’t apologize because “liberals” who think that not all lives matter forced her to do so. She apologized because she realized she’d (perhaps inadvertently) adopted a slogan (All Lives Matter!) adopted by the 99% white denialist side in a debate about police shootings of unarmed black people.
Context context context. You know, that thing that the Left is good at the Right is bad at!
Her apology was appropriate. She should have apologized for saying “all lives matter” because NO ONE HAS EVER SAID ALL LIVES DO NOT MATTER. You should apologize for saying it, too.
Besides, it’s evident you missed the context, as @anon15383236 above stated to you. Also:
the mind of a true liberal defies all common sense like that.
Well, your clear bias is showing, each and every time you comment. What next? You’re going to call me a name? Tell me it’s all Obama’s fault?
