You’ll shoot her eye out, kid.
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See, when the point you are making is gratuitiously obvious is is a little hard to tell. Just a style note.
Why aren’t you acknowledging what’s already been pointed out to you upthread? That certain laws supported by the NRA are indeed de facto racist laws?
Just because they aren’t explicitly written to be racist doesn’t mean that their intent and effects aren’t racist.
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Caving to public outrage, the prosecutor announces he’ll try the defendant as an adult.
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Also true for when you have a child.
You really do appear to be here to make sure we all know just how dumb the dead person was.
If the kid is black, I wouldn’t be surprised.
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I just know the world will be a happier place the day you realize that the vast majority of NRA members, americans, and humans are just not that political.
I mean really. Why are you even talking about ‘‘your’’ (our) 2nd amendmant fight? Clearly it is YOUR fight. Not mine. Not someone elses. Yours. So, if you don’t mind hearing this… being told that someone elses fight is actually my fight is, well, I think just an attempt to provoke, and not an honest attempt at understanding.
State what you believe, not what I believe. Why? Because what you did there is what Ollie North and Ted Nugent do when they disagree. They put up a strawman, like you did. Think on it?
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Nope, it’s really expensive in fact, unless you are dirt poor, which makes leaving difficult.
To give up being a US citizen the govt will first want half your worth, in cash please, as what they assume is their due for helping you to acquire it in the first place.
Oh yeah, land of the free.
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Crickets are applicable, Canada has a lot of mass shooting & just plain shooting to do to catch up.
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Especially since Canada has 1/10 the population of the USA. This is the equivalent of ten 8-person mass shootings in the USA.
Still not seeing any PROOF of this. Any? At all? And, no, anything 60 years ago or more does not count. I was not alive 60 years ago, and the guys running the NRA were, at most, in diapers at that time. I am talking about the CURRENT NRA. Any proof of racism at all?
Of course you WANT them to be racist. Guns are inherently evil, so anybody who supports gun ownership must also be evil. If they are evil, then they must be racist. It also makes it easier to demonize an entire group when you can accuse them of vague crimes. Decades ago it was “Blacks are criminal and lazy.” and “Homosexuals are perverts who want our children.” Those are now regarded as false, but gun owners are one of the new bogeymen. Never mind the fact that concealed-carry permit holders are proven to be a lot more honest than the general population. Why let a little thing like facts get in your way?
I was stating what I believe: That the NRA is a racist organization. I was asked to provide my evidence of such. I did. I was then told that because certain people in the organization are racists, doesn’t mean the entire organization is racist.
Which works for something like GooberGobbles, I guess, where there’s no elected leadership and no role call. But the NRA has both of those things.
If you are a member of the NRA for non-political reasons, I’d encourage you even MORE strongly to find a different organization to support. It is not a strawman to state that the elected leadership of an organization is composed of demonstrated racists and a convicted felon. I’ve provided proof of just those things.
Maybe you didn’t know this? Maybe you are honestly unaware of the makeup of a highly political organization you give money to? I’ve now made you aware of it. Will you continue to support that organization?
Citation plz
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So, goalposts: moved. Check.
Also: things that occurred more than 60 years ago have zero impact on our daily lives: check.
I totally see the error of my ways, here.
Also: Stop putting words into my mouth to argue against. I have provided you studies that show the stand your ground laws are enforced in a racially prejudiced manner. This meets your request for “forward me any info you have on them supporting a racist gun law in the last 20 years.”
Can you show me studies that prove the stand your ground law is NOT racist in nature?
And yet, for some magical reason, it is NOT racist to require ID to board an aircraft, open a bank account, buy a gun, or get a fishing license? Please explain this to me.
OK. Just suppose that poor, black people are not able to get id. I guess they can’t find their birth certificate? Maybe they don’t have the $10 for a ten-year ID ($1 per year). So, why require ID to buy a gun? The 2nd amendment applies to the poor and the minorities just like the 1st, 4th, and 5th, and, in fact, the entire rest of the Constitution.
So, current laws requiring showing ID to buy a gun are RACIST for the very same reason that they are for voting. Period.
RFTA. And some others.
It’s not my job to keep trying to get you to see what you refuse to see.
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OK. The entire history counts. During the Civil War, the Democratic Party OPPOSED the Emancipation Proclamation. That means that anybody who is a part of the Democratic Party is racist, right? If you voted for Obama, you, sir, are a racist, since he leads an organization that is historically racist, right?
Grow up and get a clue.
And as to how laws are enforced, that may indeed be a problem. but it is not a problem if the law, it is a problem of the enforcement of the law.
I also hate to say it, but stereotyping is imprinted in the human psyche, and we have to educate ourselves to overcome it. Stereotyping has worked well for human kind. If you see a tiger eat your uncle, what do you do when the next tiger comes along? Maybe this tiger is friendly? The same goes for the tribe next door. Stereotyping is steeped in our evolution. Education and understanding are the best way to break this cycle.
Why are you moving the goalposts again?
Here’s the thing though. Maybe that was true when the law was written, but we’ve now shown that the application is racially biased and the NRA is still behind the law.
They see no problem in supporting a law that lets more white people off the hook for murder than black people.
Tell me how that is not racist, please.
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Biting!
Scathing!
I am defeated.
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But the law, as it is written, is NOT racist. If the problem is in the application of the law, then that needs to be addressed. If a black person stands his ground against a white attacker, the law SHOULD protect him equally.
Let me put it this way, murder laws also tend, in application, to be more strict on black defendants (they tend to get longer sentences). Since this law is racist, we need to get rid of murder laws, right?
