I’ll give Sertoma (founded 1912) the benefit of the doubt, here as well. But I worked in a mailroom when I saw their mailers go through and I must say I was taken aback by their logo. It looks like they jettisoned it at some point during the intervening 31 years…
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The Austrian eagle always reminded me of Rodan:
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That looks rather like two birds colliding in mid-air. 
@bngbng “Cockade”? That’s like chicken flavoured soda, right?
That really cracked me up; thank you.
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Never support politicians. It tends to encourage them.
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Credit where it’s due: It wasn’t my discovery, a friend of mine saw it on another site.
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But I think that assumes that Trump is dealing with all of this on a fine grained level, and that’s highly doubtful (since he’s mostly golfing). We know for a fact that people such as Stephen Miller have a documented history of promoting white supremacy:
I’d argue that some people running his campaign and his administration can very much grasp it, because it’s not particularly subtle or clever. None of the symbolism they’ve promoted are particularly unknown either. Historians and activists have been pointing out the racist dog whistling for years prior to Trump, too.
We’ve been giving people a lot of leeway here on the issue of covert racist signaling, for a very long time. I think there are plenty of dots already connected to make a judgement on what’s happening.
Agreed! So I’m just curious why we’re still debating whether or not they are actively employing coded racism? I think it’s pretty obvious that they are and have been since day one.
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I don’t know if I believe you that the graphic designers of the Trump campaign are nearly that sophisticated. Remember the debacle of the original Trump-Pence campaign logo and how it was quickly abandoned? Do you think Stephen Miller intended to imply that Pence is Trump’s catamite?
The whole Trump cult is perniciously and openly racist. We agree on that. I won’t give them a pass on it. But they’ve committed so many laughable faux pas in their graphics that I won’t strain to hear the dog whistles. There’s entirely enough noise from the vuvuzelas, which appropriately enough are plastic Trump-ets. (The way the world is going, I hope against hope not to hear one blown by the Angel Gabriel!)
Yes, there has been an organized campaign of coded racism. But the code has been abandoned. Why bother with coded racism when you’re getting away with overt racism?
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I’m arguing it doesn’t take a great degree of sophistication, though. The coded stuff started under Nixon and over the years, a great number of white supremacists have colonized the GOP and actively shaped it.
Precisely because the coded racism has been done away with? And out and out racists are the core of his constituency and are running his campaign.
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Looking at eagle iconography, there just aren’t many others that look similar enough to this that it is likely they just happened upon this by accident. Here are the ones I’ve seen that are the most similar, and the Trump on has them all beat. Exhibits:
The great seal is very different:
Harley and another motorcycle logo are sort of similar though:
Eagle scout:
Naval officers:
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It’s lazy all the way down.
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It is a possibility, of course - but after all the shitty stuff the Trump administration, Trump himself, his cronies and his enablers have pulled during the last four years I flat out refuse to give them the benefit of the doubt, no matter what and no matter what for.
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Came here for this, am not disappointed
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The marine logo has the head turned the other way and the feet are resting on the planet and not in a clawed grip on the emblem below it.
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I mean… this, right?
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Yes! THIS is how to take down a monument!
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The Great Seal…
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The eagle is also smaller than the globe, rather than being much bigger, as in the Nazi symbol and the Turmp “America First” logo.
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That’s not quite true. The Nazis were counting German empires, not Roman ones. So the Holy Roman Empire was the first and the 1871 empire the second.
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I’m looking over this artist’s work and while this is a Nazi-ass eagle, they have dozens of not-Nazi-ass eagles to pick from in the same motif.
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C’mon, though…you’ve got to admit that this particular use is a little on the nose, especially in light of the slogan, right? One does not have to look much beyond the surface here to see the problem.
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