Twin Peaks and suspicion in small towns

Now can we stop calling it season 3? It’s not season three.

I plan on writing an epic poem about this gorgeous pie!

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I get where the author in the linked article is coming from, but “3rd Season” still seems like the best term. It ain’t a spinoff or a reboot, it lives in the same universe, and obviously means enough to its creator to warrant personal attention.

I mean maaaaaaybe you could call it a sequel, but TV shows don’t get sequels.

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I’d say True Detective was worth it all the way until near the end where (not to give any spoilers) the writers kind of threw away what was really interesting about Cohle and made him a cliche.

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I thought so and for the same reasons as ‘Twin Peaks’, but TD is painted with a slightly broader brush. Everybody in these series have secrets. It’s McConnaughy’s best work. Harrelson’s performance was on par; he was better in ‘Out of the Furnace’, but that’s just personal taste.

There has been some squawk about the casting of the next two actors for Season Two - Colin Farrell and Vince Vaughn. The fans of TD aren’t happy. But I can remember performances from Farrell so emotionally powerful I wept, likewise Vaughn as a much younger actor before he made all those goofball comedies. They’re both fantastic dramatic actors, middle-aged now and ‘seasoned’ by the industry and their personal choices… a bit like detectives.

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I saw both “Twin Peaks” and Lars Von Trier’s “Kingdom” in their times. I wish that more notorious and “diffiCult” directors would try their hands at long-form television drama – it seems to ground and balance their aesthetic in a way that is more enduring than their movies.

What? The end of the series was what saved Rust from becoming a pastiche. The fact that he did change his worldview is something that demands reconciliation on the viewer’s part.

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Must all atheists be “saved” by a near death experience where they “see the light”? That’s a very tired cliche.

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As an atheist, Rust’s sudden epiphany was jarring. I was, and know, and am that man. I felt a similar betrayal when I watched the final episodes of Lost and Battlestar Galactica.

At the same time, stories are meant to show how the characters change in the face of circumstance. If Rust had shot The Yellow King and made a tight little speech in the spirit of Ozymandeus, I would have been disappointed. I disagree with his conclusions, and that is what makes it so resonant.

Rust was interesting because he held on to that teenage angst that so many of us just accept and move on from. He clutched at it like a mantra because he cared too much. Watching his arc was like watching a version of me that never stopped giving a shit about things like that. Rust was always a outsider because he couldn’t let go, and his sudden change of heart at the end is just a natural extension of that over-philosophized ethos.

Star Trek TNG, DS9, Voyager, Team Knight Rider, Kung Fu: The Legend Continues, Degrassi TNG, Girl Meets World. I’m pretty sure there are loads more TV sequels.

Why is Hawk “presumed Native American”. He’s played by a Native American and some of the character traits are obviously Native American. Do Lynch/Frost have to have him state that he’s Native American?

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[Agent Cooper] Oh, let’s get cherry pie delivered.

[Siri] I found a number of cafes whose reviews mention cherry pie and that deliver fairly close to you.

 

In another twist, Agent Cooper is now the Mayor of Portland, OR.


Somebody worried that this could go all LOST; to counteract such a train-wreck, Lynch could do worse than hiring the writers of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated who managed a reboot that honored the originals and kicked LOST’s sloppy plot-point-tying-off ass.

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I get where you are coming from, but I have never heard anyone call those shows sequels. The most common terms I have heard used are “spin-off” or “new series”.

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I remember TNG being called a sequel when it first came out, but the term (no matter how correct) isn’t really used in TV. Turns out that there’s a wiki page listing TV sequels and it lists way more than I did, but a whole load of them are things like the Batman and Iron Man animated series. Frasier wasn’t listed, neither was Mork & Mindy, so I guess there must be some distinction made between spin-off and sequel.

I don’t think Twin Peaks can be safely placed within the time it came out. While aspects of the show certainly have dated qualities - particularly when Lynch isn’t the one directing - the show itself is fairly timeless; almost as much about the 50s as the 90s. Indeed, the whole “decent small-town cop” thing was a bit of an anachronism back then too, perhaps not for mainstream TV audiences but certainly for the intellectuals and commentators who were the show’s main boosters in its first season. This was, after all, a quarter-century after the 60s and the Reagan era - despite its best efforts - hadn’t exactly washed away the legacy of that decade. Lynch’s world was seen as a throwback even then.

Anyway, when Twin Peaks returns it will (spoiler alert) most likely do so with a corrupted Cooper. I suppose this fits in well with our zeitgeist but it is also consistent with the latter part of Lynch’s career. Around the time of Twin Peaks, he shifted his focus from pure heroes fighting outside villains to characters tormented inside themselves (the Twin Peaks saga’s shift from Agent Cooper to Laura Palmer as its central character is very revealing in this regard).

The attention Twin Peaks is getting is gratifying but also frustrating as the cultural-phenom aspect gets played up at the expense of examining what Lynch and Frost were actually doing with the series (case in point: the second season, in which the major events of the show occur, barely gets mentioned in most retrospective pieces). The fact that Twin Peaks and David Lynch were hot topics of conversation 25 years ago is cool, yes, but Twin Peaks is far more interesting than just that tidbit. Cultural/sociopolitical analysis only goes so far with the original series, and I suspect the same will be true in 2016. That may be one of the new series’ most subversive aspect since that paradigm seems to be how everyone writes about art these days.

He actually does state that as well.

That gum you like is going to come back in style.

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