Twitter reports grim growth numbers, Wall Street reacts accordingly

The almighty dollar, we must worship it and be controlled by it.

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Iā€™d be the last to uphold the worldā€™s finance weasels as arbiters of value; but when you kick out an IPO thatā€™s pretty much what you bring on yourself. And, by 2013, itā€™s unlikely that there were many in tech startups who didnā€™t know that.

This is obviously unfortunate for a fair number of people who had no say in the decision(both users and low-end-of-the-totem-pole shareholders); but going public is as close as it gets to voluntary assent to being measured purely by your market value.

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Iā€™ve been trying to use Twitter because I have never ā€œgottenā€ it but it seems like a place one can promote a business.

As best I can tell, no one really visits it, itā€™s just a bunch of bots that different businesses pay to post on there hoping to get eyeballs on their articles or ads.

I donā€™t know - I keep hoping someone can explain it to me in a way I understand.

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Look up ā€œPump and dumpā€. Thatā€™s pretty much the model of a lot of ā€œsocial mediaā€ IPOs.

After being told repeatedly by various friends how much fun Twitter is I made it a 2016 resolution to sign up. And when I tried to create an account I couldnā€™t get past ā€œPlease enter a valid phone numberā€.

I can think of a dozen reasons not to put my phone number on a social networking site without even stopping to take a breath. Their insistence on a smartphone numberā€“according to the screen I would get a text with a link to activate my accountā€“to prove I was a ā€œreal personā€ made me decide that if there was anything on Twitter I needed to see I could count on my friends to forward it to me.

This is apparently a new policy and Iā€™m sure Iā€™m not the only new user itā€™s kept from signing up.

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what happens if you give a mythical phone number?

on various sites my age ranges between 105 (they even asked me if I am sure I am that old) and 20, depending on how I feel on the day. Being inconsistent is the best way to mess with systems set on monetising your personal information, so I figure.

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I really hope Twitter doesnā€™t die, or get changed out of recognition.

For me, itā€™s an excellent way to pick up news, find interesting new links, and itā€™s the ideal companion for live events. It just takes a while when you get started to curate a list of people who tweet what interests you.

I donā€™t know why I write tweets, though. Almost all my followers appear to be promotional accounts. But I donā€™t really care who about using twitter to say things, itā€™s about listening to people (and having the occasional short conversation with people Iā€™d never be able to talk to in real life.

Itā€™s a hundred million times more active and interesting than Facebook and its baby and wedding photos. I guess perhaps I could have made Facebook more interesting by liking and following more public accounts, but I had no desire to let FB build up a model of me.

My Twitter account is pseudonymous, I donā€™t much care what they do with the social graph of that.

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Fad service.

If you give a mythical phone number youā€™re still blocked. The instructions say theyā€™ll text a link to the number and that link will be used to activate your account.

Granted I did find a way around it. I emailed support and got a BS reply about there being a ā€œproblemā€ with my (non-existent) account and they emailed me a link. So I was finally able to sign up without giving out my phone number, but people who are less persistent are just going to walk away.

And, yeah, I guess it is a lot of celebrity ego-stroking, but Eddie Izzard shares some nice pictures of places heā€™s visiting and if I feel the need for a laugh I can look up what Bill Murrayā€™s said lately.

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I would include whoever at Twitter HQ made that call in my indictment, for sure.

No, that canā€™t be right. Iā€™m pretty sure thatā€™s not what itā€™s forā€¦

So many people say this, but for me it just isnā€™t.

The problem with Twitter is its just a constant fire-hose of nonsense. Inevitably the one ore two tweets Iā€™m interested in get buried in garbage.

And journalists and news outlets are the worst of the worst. They all tweet SO, SO MUCH. I only follow one journalist, not because I think heā€™s the best or whatever, but because once start following multiple reporters/news outlets your feed is thoroughly hijacked.

I donā€™t think I follow any major news outlets. Iā€™m thinking more of specific journalists and social commentators, and it changes as events happen - the Magic Recs system is pretty good once youā€™ve set up a few people to follow.

I stay away from most of the joke/novelty accounts, they get old quick.

Christ knows how Twitter is meant to make any money, mind.

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I have a PAYG SIM precisely for this job that cost me Ā£5. It lives in an old Palm Pre 2 with the battery out, and when I need to sign up for something that needs a phone number, in goes the battery and off we go. I use this burner phone to send the odd text and check for messages once in a while so the account stays activated.
The actual accounts run on a tablet so there is no way the overlords can discover that the phone number is not the one on my phone.

(The only reason I have Twitter is because a charity I do some work for decided they wanted a Twitter account and I ended up setting it up for them. Posts to date zero, which kind of makes the point; some organisations seem to think they should use it but when it comes to it, canā€™t think what to do with it. This is like another charity I do some work for which got excited because they had 70 likes on Facebook. They were not pleased when I said I might take it seriously if more than just clicking on a button was involved).

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Well, I just joined (is that what you say) Twitter last week, so everything should be fine now.

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Or the Fates have just been waiting for you to join, and now you have the plug will be pulled completely.

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I agree, the corollary to it being concise is that itā€™s overwhelmingly vapid. Twitter is essentially the ā€œhaiku formā€ of internet communicationā€¦ 17 syllables and youā€™re done, and many will praise it as art when all it did was serve as a format-based pretext not to reveal more.

Also: Snapchat! Whatā€™s up with that?!?!?

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Omit words.

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Twitter is brilliant for breaking news. I have a list of just news accounts, and right now Iā€™m following live tweets reporting on negotiators trying to talk David Fry into surrendering to the FBI at the Malheur wildlife refuge. There isnā€™t another platform that does this.

I donā€™t understand people who say that theyā€™ve tried Twitter and itā€™s just full of junk. If your feed is full of junk, you have chosen to follow accounts that tweet junk. Everything you see is chosen by you. ETA: Okay, except for the sponsored tweets. Those are annoying, but there arenā€™t too many of them . . . yet.

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