U.S. Army war dogs deserve better than to be neglected or put down after their tour of duty is finished

Uh, I think they are mainly used for things like finding explosives and drugs. IEDs are still a huge problem. Maybe some are used on base patrols to alert handlers someone is there through smell, but I don’t think for the most part dogs are killing, maiming, or hurting. They are more to prevent the killing, maiming etc of soldiers.

Police dogs, are different. They smell drugs and explosive too, but some are trained to hold or subdue people. I am guessing some dogs in the military who work with MPs may do similar jobs.

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One friends from HS became an army Chaplain and actually piloted a program for in-country (Iraq) therapy dog use. This would break his heart. He would also represent a great opportunity to involve vets in making placements for these fellas.

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Anyone who knows the US army’s treatment of animals or other “assets” that are no longer “useful” ( think war horses after ww1 that were either abandoned in Europe or destroyed at home) won’t be surprised. For all our goverments lip service about honoring our military our human soldiers don’t fare much better than their animal counterparts.

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You know, I’m just gonna come out and say it, fuck the military. In my lifetime they have caused way more problems than they have ever solved. Have they ever solved any problems for this nation? I’d like to know.

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Thank you Mr. Mud.

No they haven’t. I’m actively working on keeping the recruitment assholes away from my kid. I had to opt out of having his name published for school things so the school doesn’t have to share his name with recruitment (which failed) and hang up on them when they call. Hopefully his selective service notice goes missing.:smiling_imp:

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I’s like to clarify this… other than the American Revolution, WWII and preserving the Union during the Civil War, what good has the military done for this nation that is worth the budget and the detriment it has caused all around the world. The whole Middle East immigrant problem that right wingers constantly bitch about was brought to the rest of the world by the Unites States military. Thank you mother fucking lying Preznt Bush and everyone else that believed the lies and endorsed any wars of choice.

No I’d exempt WW2 from this too because it was directly caused by the fallout from ww1

Absolutely true that you can’t place a war dog or police dog in a situation where the owners have no training. The sad thing here is most handlers would adopt their partners (who better) but weren’t allowed to

The US military is under civilian command, and anything it does is under civilian oversight, ultimately under the president as commander-in-chief. I completely agree with the sentiment of f the people who send the US military in at every opportunity to support the absolute worst causes. The US has a long history of doing this, unfortunately. And the process of sending in the military now doesn’t even require congressional declaration, so it’s even worse.

So the actions of the US military can be seen as the result of the will of the voting citizens of the United States. Just as the deportation of non-citizen veterans is down to us as a nation. Whether we agree with the horrors or not, it’s the toxic moral soup we’re in every day.

And then of course the US military does operate at times like a typical government bureaucracy, but its employees have weapons, and the power of life and death and also a mission of nation-building, so what could go wrong with all that?

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That would have very bad consequences for your son: https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Why-Register/Benefits-and-Penalties

Actually nobody has even been charged for failure to register since 1986.
https://hasbrouck.org/draft/prosecutions.html

The rest of the penalties are vaporware scare tactics.
Most people are in breach of selective service registration the second they move out of their home because one requirement is that you inform the ssa of any address change and I know for sure I didn’t do that and I’d be willing to bet you didn’t either. Apparently they count people that register then never update as complaint because the whole thing is bullshit.

In any case I’d much rather worry about non existent “penalties” than have my happy wonderful son come home with a traumatic brain injury, missing limbs or just plain Dead just to please president Bone Spurs

Addendum: I can’t believe the amount of deep red “small gubberment” states that have passed legislation linking enrollment to driving privilege.what a bunch of F’KING hypocrites

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Under civilian control or not, it still doesn’t mean we need to worship the military as if its the only thing this nation should stand for. I don’t believe in offering my thanks to military personnel for their ‘sevice’ just because. Frankly, they don’t deserve it. There is not an active military person that has done anything to preserve this nation’s freedom. Nobody has died for my personal freedom or anybody I know, or any United States citizen. If anything they have only solidified coporate interests and have helped pave the way toward an oligarchy.

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The military and their wars have always been a lever of social control.
Military force is almost exclusively used to advance an elite classes personal interests no matter the harm it causes to the proletariat, all while being wrapped up in the trappings of good citizenship or patriotism.
Yes that extends as far back in this country as the revolution and you can include WW2 also (because that war was directly influenced by the ruling elites gleeful punishment of Germany after WW1)

The rhetoric you’re talking about that’s used on and about military personnel by the media and politicians is a thing that probably partly came out of the reaction to returning personnel after the Vietnam War; unfortunately, I think it also serves to safely stifle the reality of what service members experience. Which perpetuates the problem, when no one seems to want to know what went on over there.
The formula about people having died to keep others free is rhetoric possibly from a military oath? It’s certainly something the military takes seriously, no matter whether personnel work here in the US or elsewhere.

Also, there’s a huge disconnect between the experiences of those people I have known who have been in the military and “solidifying corporate interests.” Again, the civilian-run government controls where the military goes and on what mission.

You’re right, WWII was a huge power play. Some wealthy elites here in the U.S. actually supported Hitler. George W’s grand daddy, Prescott Bush supported the Nazi’s and there were others. They were playing both sides of the Atlantic hoping to come out on top whomever won the war. And then of course we all know Rooesevelt allowed Pearl Harbor to happen. The difference I see between WWII and other wars is that Hilter was an actual threat to our nation. If he had been given the chance we would all be goose stepping Nazis today.

True but had the allied countries not handed Germany a huge Shit sandwich full of payback somebody like Hitler would have a tough time not getting his face rearranged agitating at the beer hall.
You can see creepy similarities in the plight of the common American and the election of president dumpster fire

And if Germany and Austria hadn’t over reacted and caused WWI, they wouldn’t have deserved that shit sammich… and around and around it goes. We didn’t start the fire, etc.

Ironically, the US tried to stay out of both wars and it took awhile to be dragged in both times. And after the 2nd time was when the US went from a fairly neutral, isolationist state, to full on “total war on two fronts” military behemoth. So much about WWI changed the world forever.

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Have you been watching The Great War series? It started in 2014 and is following the war in “real time”, week by week.