I want them to be in UNDU with war criminals like Bush, Obama, Blair, Brown, Trump etc.
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Yet somehow Canada’s per capita COVID-19 rate hovers around 45% of the USian rate, the per capita rate of new Canadian vs. new American cases is about 33% and the Canadian per capita death rate is currently 29% of the American figures.
Damned socialist medicine!
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Absolutely. Outpatient care still requires care, it’s just not delivered in a hospital setting. The first hurdle might be the “warehousing” of patients needing care when the doctor/patient ratio is low - a bed could get you cared for by a nurse immediately, while you wait days for a doctor to see or treat you. On the other end of the treatment spectrum, well-equipped hospitals have advantages such as minimally invasive laparoscopic procedures that enable outpatient surgery where patients recover at home; this is not an option when surgery requires a major incision, requiring patients to recover in-hospital. Another consideration is the conditions in hospitals are often substantially better than those at home, where home care might involve constant struggles with dirt, pathogens, insects, etc. Poverty and illiteracy also mean even simple medical equipment, such as thermometers and blood pressure cuffs, are unavailable for home care.
It’s definitely not a simple math problem where “2 < 7 means 2 is worse than 7”. That’s not how this works.
It may not be “across the country” yet, but unfortunately rationing has already begun. I recently read a doctor in New York’s tweet that said something like “We’ve run out of ventilators, I just had to make my first decision on who got treated and who didn’t. 
” Americans aren’t flattening the curve fast enough, meaning this is going to become more common.
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I’m with you @Grey_Devil.
That’s more or less how I try to approach such things as well.
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Ok so which country do you think would be an appropriate model to compare the US per capita bed count to? Canada and the UK are the two systems most like “medicare for all” and both of them have
Are you sure that quote is correct? I’ve heard a lot of concern about this possibility but no actual evidence of any rationing of ventilators at this point.
I really hate this kind of comment (From Raab earlier today)
I’m confident he’ll pull through because if there’s one thing I know about this prime minister, he’s a fighter.
What about all the people who have already died? Were they not fighters? Did they deserve to die because they wouldn’t put the effort into living?
It probably sounds innocent enough to the able bodied, but when you are disabled in a country that has been hostile to disability for the last decade it seems anything but.
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Perhaps so, but keep in mind that the additional beds per capita in the U.S. are mainly reserved for either the wealthy or for those who don’t mind negotiating with insurance companies or going bankrupt in the midst of dealing with a major personal health crisis (and that’s during normal times). For a lot of us that’s what defines how terrible the American “free” market system actually is.
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There is a difference between ‘wishing for someone’s death’ and ‘not pissing on them after they set themself on fire.’
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You are illustrating my point. Yes, an MSNBC analyst who served as the main counsel in Trump’s impeachment trial claims to “know someone” who was rationing care five days ago. But he doesn’t name the hospital or doctor. Andrew Cuomo on the same day stated that NY had 2,200 ventilators additional supply. So given his highly partisan background and the lack of a named source it would be good to have another source, anyone who is actually in the medical community in NY.
By the way I despise Trump so don’t take this as defense of him or his incredible incompetence and corruption.
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I’m not convinced Johnson is that much of a fighter, either. More of a quitter. Remember when the PM post first became available after the Brexit referendum, when Cameron resigned? Or when Johnson was Foreign Secretary? The guy has a history of starting stuff and then not following through.
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Ask his children.
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