Originally published at: http://boingboing.net/2017/07/17/undercover-cop-with-hideous-ma.html
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It seems highly unlikely the van was wide open, but i wonder if it was left unlocked or if the cop unlocked it somehow. If it was left wide open, by either the owner or someone else then the officer can search for anything that is in plain sight (i think).
Still what a sketchy as hell thing to do, and he was so casual about walking away from the car. I’m also surprised the officer didn’t plant some drugs in there.
Perhaps in another 30 seconds he would have?
If he saw something in plain sight through the window then it can be used as probable cause to search the vehicle. But yeah, it’s still sketchy.
Also with regards to the title, he’s not an “undercover” cop if he has a badge around his neck. He’s a plainclothes office, most likely a detective.
You can’t “search” for something in plain sight. You can look through the opening just like you can look through the window, but you can’t enter. You can’t physically search.
If he’d seen something through the window that could have served as probable cause, he wouldn’t have looked like a kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar when caught and he would have been able to say that rather than the weak-ass “we’ve been getting a lot of reports…” catch-all that he went with.
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When the man asks the officer how he accessed his trunk, the officer replies, “It’s open. It’s wide open.”
Notice that he’s not answering the question. He’s saying that the car is open, not that it was open and that’s how he accessed it.
I would be very interested to see if it came out that the officer unlocked the car somehow. I have a hard time believing someone in the city would leave their car unlocked, though mistakes do happen. Either way if it was locked or not it doesn’t look good for the officer.
Also there seemed to be quite a number of other trucks, SUVs parked on that street and i’m curious why he decided to search that particular one. It does have a FOR SALE sign on it, but that doesn’t seem suspicious to me.
I don’t think that locked or unlocked makes any legal difference. In the same way that merely reaching into the open window is enough to garner a “breaking and entering” charge.
Here’s commentary by Jon Masters on the incident. (Note: I like his videos, and he usually has good insight into what’s going on and why, but never ever listen to anything he says about sovereign citizen rights to drive a car without a license!)
I’m not arguing with that, but if the officer unlocked the car don’t you think that’s a very serious situation? It would also raise the question of “Is this officer the only one doing this?”
Paterson. Enough said.
"In Paterson that’s just the way things go
If you’re black you might as well not show up on the street
’Less you wanna draw the heat."
- Bob Dylan, Hurricane
When a cop pulled him over to the side of the road
Just like the time before and the time before that
In Patterson that’s just the way things go
If you’re black you might as well not show up on the street
'Less you wanna draw the heat.
ETA: Curses, too slow!
“We’re getting a lot of complaints about guns…”
Tell it to the NRA.
- You can learn a lot just by watching.
- He painted his own self-portrait.
- It’s busy on the weekend, especially Saturday and Sunday.
- It was an unexpected surprise.
- I never make predictions about the future.
- If we do not succeed, we run the risk of failure.
- I don’t do requests, unless I’m asked.
- That’s a hideous man bun.
It’s Dušan Nemec.
This is absolutely, 100% incorrect. If the police see something incriminating in plain view (this applies to other senses as well such as hearing or smelling something) that gives probable cause to search further.