Unvaccinated high school student is suing the health department for banning him from school during a chicken pox outbreak

I second this. I think I had a relatively mild case brought on by new parent stress, but for a while it felt like someone had nailed red hot nails that wouldn’t cool into a neurotome along a rib…

One of my friends had it, and has scarring and permanent residual facial nerve damage from shingles.

“Unfuck” this kid, and let him sit at home with Jesus. Your religious exemption grants you the right to not be forcibly vaccinated. It doesn’t grant you the right to impose disease on others.

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I didn’t take it that way. No probs.

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I see the kid went to a Catholic school, and I understand that non-RC kids attend, but this has me wondering if the Church has swung back to an anti-science stance. I have a feeling I’ll just get the shaking head if I hunt down Father Casimir and ask him.

great. so not only religious delusions, but also a tinfoil-hatter. why am I not surprised?

its money, plain and simple:

“my view is simple; no goverment-program, wether healt-care, social-security or whatever, can save you. it may put food in your belly at great expense, it may get you into hospital at even greater expense, it may provide you with the (door?)base of your life, but only one thing will, thats jesus.”

its funny, how many of those “devout” people are obsessed with money, especialy when its going to the poor for all the “wrong”" reasons.

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Except for when he gets it wrong.

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I’m not Catholic but I’m pretty sure this is either the kid’s own delusion, or something local to the particular school. Catholic church, AFAIK, is with a few exceptions (such as contraception and sexual minorities) firmly on the side of science.

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Its pretty common across some countries in the world (and earlier many countries) to let a child have chicken pox. It guards them against adult onset of chicken pox - which is extremely dangerous. Chicken pox in children is not as devastating, unless of course, the child is not healthy to start with - in which case the vaccine is usually given. Having chicken pox mostly vaccinates you for life - unlike the vaccine which has to be taken every 10yrs or so.
Shingles as an adult can happen to both - those pre-exposed and non-exposed. As for everything, there is a risk criteria - the risk of shingles increases because you cannot have chicken pox again. If you want to reduce risk of shingles, there is a vaccine for it.

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Too many people think chickenpox is no big deal. Tell that to my mother when she’s nearly in tears due to an outbreak of shingles

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He hasn’t been banned from school. He still goes to math and english class.

I can’t find it in the comments above, but yes the school is “Catholic”, but it is an SPXX school. SSPX, Society of St. Pious X is a schismatic sect of Catholicism that is very conservative, they are still upset that the mass isn’t said in Latin anymore, among other things. I am not sure what other political or societal beliefs that would bring with it, but I would think less science rigor than us regular Catholics who actually became scientists.

My reading of the actual letter from the Kentucky health Department says they are quarantining the school. All this kid has to do is get vaccinated or prove he had the chicken pox. Simple.

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It’s a joke. As long as we’re talking about reading comprehension…

The original story is about a high school student who is suing the school district for not allowing him to attend during a chicken pox outbreak.

The joke is, on alternate earth, he’s allowed to attend, gets chicken pox, and then sues the school for allowing him to attend school during a chicken pox outbreak.

The joke isn’t all that complicated.

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I dunno if I’d go so far as to say “with few exceptions” (especially if you go back a few centuries) but at least in terms of modern medicine I’d say you’re right. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care in the world and they administer a lot of vaccines.

Even the anti-abortion group National Catholic Bioethics Center has this to say about vaccines developed from fetal stem cell lines:

One is morally free to use the vaccine regardless of its historical association with abortion. The reason is that the risk to public health, if one chooses not to vaccinate, outweighs the legitimate concern about the origins of the vaccine. This is especially important for parents, who have a moral obligation to protect the life and health of their children and those around them.

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Holy Shit!

I n conclusion, in the case of routine vaccine of children with MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella, of which only Rubella is derived from fetal cell lines) there is certainly no obligation to have the vaccine, since it is not strictly necessary, either for one’s own health or for that of the community. If it is desired, then it would certainly be best to request the Measles and Mumps portions separately from the Rubella, thus making a statement of moral principle, and this should be done whenever possible. Nevertheless, if the MMR combination is the only one offered, and if parents have good reason to administer this vaccine (even if it be only the good of society) or if it is considered to be obligatory by public health authorities or for school entrance, then they are not to be troubled in conscience by allowing it to be administered to their children. However, since there are many good reasons to refuse the Rubella vaccine altogether for children, and since it is certainly preferable to make a stand on moral principle, no parent is to be troubled or disturbed because he decides that his children are not to receive the Rubella or the MMR on account of the immoral origin of the Rubella portion of the vaccine. It is perfectly licit in such a case to insist on an exemption of conscience on the grounds of religion. [Answered by Fr. Peter R. Scott]

(assuming that the heretical offshoot of catholicism runs this school)

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Looking that way, all the mainstream Catholic organizations seem fine with vaccines even in cases where the vaccines were developed using aborted fetal stem cells (though they recommend alternative vaccines when available).

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Ooo, I see potential for a nice conspiracy full of Papist Jabbers! I’m sure somebody’s beat me to it.

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In this case, I suspect the student is sufficiently dumb and self-centred to turn round and sue for a second time.

This may be the ultimate answer to how a significant number of these happen. If you define “ingroup” and “outgroup” by vaccine status, it becomes pretty obvious.

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Nah. They’ll be deemed “entities of corporeal standing” which will be found to equate to “corporations” in the next suit, and in a suit after that as “people”. It’ll take a bit longer but they’ll get there.

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Apply that to the computer viruses, and we will have the precedent for the inevitable “Can AI have a citizenship?” trial. :wink:

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