Vaped crusader

[anotherone]

@enso

If that is something you do, well…

Dennis Leary ~ "I'm An Asshole - and Damn Proud of it"

[onemanmob]

@CrowingOne

So when the city of Flint tells their people their water is fine…

I think you may have helped prove enso’s point. Tests conducted in the EU and the UK only apply to the vape juice in those regions. Flint told everyone the water was fine too, lest we forget.

[CrowingOne]

Aside from a citation-less scarepage I don’t see you offering any scientific refutation. And there are plenty of flawed US studies we could discuss.

The UK government via NHS has adopted the position that ecigs are 95% less harmful than tobacco. Not 100%, but 95%. I’ll take that.

[Mangochin]

Fun with punctuation:

Zombie Hunter-S. Thompson!

Now available on Playstation and Xbox.

[subextraordinaire]

I create stained glass panels and I can work with lead. California justs makes sure that I’m aware of health hazards in items (e.g., crystal) that may not be so obvious. I can actually walk into a place and buy 50/50 solder without seeing a warning.

[onemanmob]

@CrowingOne

I don’t see you offering any scientific refutation.

HUGE PHLEMY COUGH

Flavoring Chemicals in E-Cigarettes: Diacetyl, 2,3-Pentanedione, and Acetoin in a Sample of 51 Products, Including Fruit-, Candy-, and Cocktail-Flavored E-Cigarettes

Also: can we stop with the “use e-cigs to quit” angle? If the E-cig companies wanted people to quit, and not get a whole other generation addicted, then why all the flavors (esp, ones that taste like candy)?

Another Also: Can we stop pretending Big tobacco isn’t behind the curtain in the land of vaporOZing?

[shaddack]

@enso

Anything is effectively harmless below certain threshold.

I’ll await the official ruling from the Food and Drug Administration saying that rather than take your word for it.

Everything has an allowed exposure threshold. Not sure if it is more a question for FDA or OSHA, though, but you can find them for pretty much any industrial substance.

In this specific case, the exposure is grossly time limited as the aerosol dissipates fast.

[shaddack]

@onemanmob

Flavoring Chemicals in E-Cigarettes: Diacetyl, 2,3-Pentanedione, and Acetoin in a Sample of 51 Products, Including Fruit-, Candy-, and Cocktail-Flavored E-Cigarettes

You mean, diacetyl naturally present in the Chardonnay wines, strawberries, raspberries, beer, tea, coffee and elsewhere, 2,3-pentanedione found in peaches, yoghurt, cocoa, coffee roasted nuts, cooked potatoes and many other sources, and acetoin, naturally present in butter, cheddar cheese, coffee, cocoa, honey, fresh apples…?

See Fenaroli’s handbook of flavor ingredients.

Chemicals with scary names are everywhere.

[onemanmob]

So are you claiming popcorn lung isn’t a thing?

also I don’t think I ever tried to inhale vaporized cheese into my lungs before, i’m sure it will go well.

[shaddack]

@onemanmob

So are you claiming popcorn lung isn’t a thing?

If you inhale too much of any natural chemical, where too much depends on the chemical, it will be bad for you. In small doses, not so.

@onemanmob

also I don’t think I ever tried to inhale vaporized cheese into my lungs before, i’m sure it will go well.

You did. The cheese outgasses a WIDE palette of chemicals. Together they are known as “aroma”.

So yes, you inhaled cheese.

[OtherMichael]

@enso

How many of the pro “Vape anywhere people” here would invite a friend over to dinner in their house or apartment and want them vaping and emitting a cloud of smoke over the dinner table while everyone spoke? Wouldn’t folks say “Hey, can’t you go outside to do that so all of the rest of us don’t have to breathe that too?”

Why don’t you want to help them quit smoking?

#Tobacco-pusher!

[OtherMichael]

@enso

You can keep asking questions if you want though.

Fuck off! We don’t want him in that thread!

[pixleshifter]

Unless you walked, cycled or drove electric to said lunch or movie, I’d rather you stayed at home because I’d rather not breathe in the highly dangerous exhaust fumes it took to get you there.
Disclaimer:
I don’t vape. As stated earlier I’m a cannabis smoker, so have only ever smoked outside or in my own home.

[pixleshifter]

@enso

You obviously don’t live in California. Only assholes smoke drive where other people have to breathe it.

FTFY…[quote=“shaddack, post:228, topic:73621”]
You mean, diacetyl naturally present in the Chardonnay wines…
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I knew you’d fill those blanks in.

[shaddack]

@pixleshifter

I knew you’d fill those blanks in.

Happy to help Flavor chemistry and food chemistry (and processes and materials in food industry) are pretty interesting fields.

People who waste time on petty outrages instead of reading industrial monographs are missing out.

[enso]

@pixleshifter

Unless you walked, cycled or drove electric to said lunch or movie, I’d rather you stayed at home because I’d rather not breathe in the highly dangerous exhaust fumes it took to get you there.

I actually pretty much walk everywhere or bike and BART.

In fact, I’m walking at my treadmill standing desk right now talking to you!

[pixleshifter]

Good for you. Genuinely. These are really the more important things we should be focusing on.
You’re in the middle of your workday and I’m readying for bed.
Don’t work/walk too hard.

[enso]

@pixleshifter

You’re in the middle of your workday and I’m readying for bed.

4pm on Friday? I wouldn’t call that “middle.” In fact, my wife just got me this for Valentine’s Day…

[pixleshifter]

Nice. I don’t drink, myself, but I’ll toast you with my cup of tea.

[jlw]

@OtherMichael

I took my 5-year-old son to a figure-8 demolition derby race at a local fair this fall, and a guy behind us was vaping. Huge clouds of… vapor, I guess – but it still smelled like ass and covered us just like a damn cloud of smoke. O

I am confused, you are encouraging meth abuse but concerned about vaporizing?

I’ll be surprised if @anon61221983 only gives you a derisive gif and isn’t calling child protective services to report taking a 5 year old to demolition derby right now!