I can see what you’re getting at, regarding the uniqueness of Stockton.
That being said, given that we can see similar events in less problematic cities indicates that this isn’t just a Stockton or bad cop problem, but a generally larger, structural problem with policing in general and race in policing specifically. I’m not sure we should just say, “well, that’s stockton” to events like this, because it glosses over the depth of the systemic problem.
I agree that it’s a systemic problem, but I think it gets expressed more acutely in high density/high crime areas.
The democratization of camera phones is beginning to spotlight that tide. I hope it will turn soon.
Maybe it’s useful because in Stockton it’s so common to have bad crap happening every single day, all day, every day, at all hours… so you could quickly compile a catalog of the worst of the worst and use it to fuel reform all over the country. I can’t bright-side it much more than that.
Thanks for clarifying, but for the record, I do think that the core issue is that the cops roughed up a kid, hence my own comment comparing the kid to my own. The problem really is the fact that the cop involved felt it necessary to bring in more cops, in part so they can apparently block camera phones from recording public interactions between police and the public (similar to a story posted a while back when there was literally a blue wall of man power built around a few cops roughing up a homeless man) - all for a kid who refused to comply. So, its the cops that are the problem here, not this kid.
Additionally, the bystander might have a great reason for having an axe to grind against the police - they might be as shot through with corruption and racial bias as the Ferguson police force…
Stockton is the actual place that Sons of Anarchy was about?
I think so. I never watched that show, because I have had my fill of old Stock-tone.
I’d say Stockton is different than Ferguson, in that the brutality is not meted out quite as much along racial lines. The police department is more mixed-race than Ferguson and the town generally is very mixed. Of course there are whiter and browner areas, but generally any of the middle class neighborhoods are mixed.
This is whitesplaining, a la Matt Damon, because my black friends say they get stopped by the Stockton police all the time… all I am doing is trying to describe the difference between Stockton and a town in Missouri. I am NOT trying to justify Stockton as better or worse for people, just different, because it is different when compared to Missouri.
You know it’s only a few bad apples, right?
Cops are scum.
Trespassing…on the street?!?
Just like driving, it’s not really arrestable unless committed while black.
I guess it’s a subset of the walking while black crime spectrum…
As far as I can tell, “official police policy” is whatever the fuck an officer feels like doing
Oh, ok. Totally valid reason to arrest him and beat the crap out of him then. Definitely a hardened criminal.
Even if that report is 100% accurate, the absolute worst that should have happened is the officer grabbing him and yanking him out of the bus lane, yelling at him, and then letting everyone go on about their day.
Can this be more messed up.
well you’re not actively helping him to die. so I guess that’s good. maybe. I’m not really big on the nuances.
No, Stockton is a lot bigger than the fictional Charming. Same vicinity though.
Between Stockton and Lodi are about 2 fields, a zoo and a bunch of neighborhoods. In less than 10 years they will have grown together so much that they’ll be indistinguishable.
Only if they shot him.
Shows how long it’s been since I drove through Stockton, or Lodi. About 4 miles between what looks like suburbs on Google Earth.
it’s about fucking time.
So anyway if I imagine Stockton to be full of evil bikers, crooked cops, actual Nazis, and a thriving black market in guns, drugs, porn, and murder, with Stephen King dropping by in person to dispose of various inconvenient corpses, that would not be too far off base?
i am hoping the international terrorism angle was fictional
