Oops, my bad. I read you’r post to mean ‘a camera flash can’t be seen from the stage because of the bright stage lighting’. Someone else seemed to be implying something like that and I think I got confused.
On re-reading I now understand you meant ‘no flash is seen in the movie’.
I’m not saying it is. My comment was made in response to one saying it was particularly bad because people’s lives are on their phones nowadays.
I do think you have to some expectation/understanding of the risks that abound for one’s shiny precious phone.
Is it right if someone smashes your phone? No.
Is it foreseeable that such a thing might happen in the front ranks of a metal concert (whether deliberately or by accident) ? Yes.
The more dependent you are on your phone, the more incumbent it is to keep it safe.
Waving it around at the front of a mosh pit is not ‘keeping it safe’. Let alone ‘secret’.
Gandalf would not approve.
I suspect that just shows that I am old. Mobile phones to me are expensive pieces of amazingly wonderful technology instead of ubiquitous pieces of everyday consumer hardware which are treated with contemptuous lack of care - until they’re suddenly no longer functioning or gone, at which point, it’s “but my life was on there!”
Also, I expect the front of a metal concert to be a scary and exciting place full of violently flailing large and sweaty youths and larger, sweatier, older people in some kind of bike club colours. This may also be outdated. Possibly they are now solemn sanctums of amateur filmmakers. IDK, I am old.
Personally, I couldn’t care less about phones at concerts. I agree with those who find it odd that people pay money to go and film a concert but that’s up to them.
I would suggest this might be a case of cultural mismatch.
I would say most people who go to such a concert, certainly back in Judas Priest’s heyday (if that can be said to have passed - sacrilegious suggestion as that is) would accept (even if they might not think of it in these terms) that there is a sort of social compact entered into that some sort of physical violence might ensue with a degree of risk escalating as one gets nearer the stage.
It’s a bit like saying physical assaults are never ok, except for sports, martial arts and all the other myriad instances where physical assaults are perfectly legitimised.
In this case, that’s not a legally accepted category but I’d say that for a large segment of the population it is in a similar category.
Certainly back in the 70s or 80s, this incident would not even rate a mention.
Nowadays, folks expect that going to a concert should be a safe, friendly experience.
That’s certainly better, especially for me since, see above, I am old and fragile.
Depends on the band/venue but its certainly reasonable to expect a higher level of physical enthusiasm at any metal show than lots of other genres.
Judas Priest tends to play fixed seating venues and even the new album as great as it is is not thrash. Probably won’t find a pit there as you might at a festival show with big name bands or a small local venue thrash metal band show.
Firepower (new album) was named #1 on lots of lists last year and Judas Priest are back playing big venues world wide so even they had some lull years and even some members have aged out, they are definitely going strong.
See, I said it was sacrilege
Oh, given that the proper move is to drool on the phone.
“Dude, how’d you get that nasty cut on your forehead?”
“Oh, it was awesome! I was at the Judas Priest concert, and Rob went and kicked this asswipe’s phone, and it went flying! Hit me on the way down!”
“Man, that is so METAL!”
When I was a teenager I got bruised ribs from being kicked at the bottom of a pile of people in a mosh pit. It was my most memorable concert going experience (Phallocracy’s fans were psycho).
OH I got hit in the leg by a drum stick at a Combichrist concert. I actually didn’t like it because I think the drummer they have some times, Joey Letz, while a good drummers, is kinda a tool. I had that opinion before the wayward stick, but it sort of cemented it. Still like Combichrist though.
An oh - FYI - Thrill Kill Kult was fucking great. They have had way more dick and drugs than the Stones combined and are still doing their thing. Actually put out a new album recently that I am currently unpacking. But even then, if you were even a casual fan I’d see if you can still catch their tour.
The phone probably decided on its own to add the flash, which is no excuse.
“It’s Supposed To Be Automatic But Actually You Have To Press This Button”
I don’t think i’ve ever had a need to use flash on my pics for the past 2-3 phones i’ve owned so i always have it disabled. Any pic that does need flash is likely going to come out looking terrible so in those instances i just don’t bother.
I have auto-flash disabled on my camera, and my previous phone didn’t have a flash so that wasn’t a problem. The first time my new phone flashed, I went straight to the #$%@ menu and turned it off. (I hate that the stock Android camera app uses a different “get the menu” method from every other app. It’s so cutesie that they probably stole it from Apple.)
Who wants flat washed-out pictures?
Hmm. Is there an app that lets other phones act as remote flashes? /makes a note…
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