Watch: Prosecutor explains why teen shooter's parents are being charged

“Med beds” come from the film Elysium, apparently.

ETA: Jennifer Crumbley wrote the letter (which is where her belief in a secret cure for cancer comes from) in 2016, which was before Q popped up. Perhaps QAnon went mainstream because there were already people who looked on Trump as a superhero who would sweep away all the evils of the world.

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Almost as if they thing everybody should be entitled to “get ahead”. Isn’t that dirty socialism? What about bootstraps, rugged individualism, and all that?

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stems from fears about skin color.

half ( not an exact number ) of what cops call “gang violence” has nothing to do with gangs, and everything about prosecution, racism, and extra dollars for gang task forces. not that (some) gangs don’t exist, but generally gangs are tied to the drug war and generally it’s the white and wealthy kids with the money to buy those drugs

anyway, there’s so much wrong with policing children instead of investing in schools: it’s too much and too off topic to get into

my point was just: yeah, white people are afraid of “gang violence” so they turn some schools into prisons. but search a white boy’s bag who’s clearly troubled and who’s communicated the desire for violence: let’s bring out the law books, and figure out if it’s constitutional or not.

there’s nothing like equal treatment in this country, and it shows. it’s driven by fear and racism, not reality

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They deserve to get ahead because they’re “good fucking Americans”, not like those other people and especially not the immigrants who aren’t even Americans. They’ve done their best to lift themselves up by their ruggedly individualist bootstraps but it just isn’t working.

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Sigh. You guys can keep sniping at me, that is fine. I understand the anger and frustration and I am a vocal target. Though IMO the anger is misplaced.

To be clear - I don’t conflate the right to own something with the right to or approval of people using it to harm others or themselves.

I wish others would not conflate the two issues as well.

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Half million cash bond each, no 10% and if they do make bail a GPS is involved.

The lawyer said this, he’s right about making them an example. He’s also saying the gun was locked up.

“We understand that our clients were apprehended last night although we fully intended to turn them in first thing this morning for arraignment, contrary to the misinformation that has been rampant in the media,” it said. “Unfortunately, this case presents the most unimaginable tragedy for every single person involved, including every member of the community. While it’s human nature to want to find someone to blame or something to point to or something that gives us answers, the charges in this case are intended to make an example and send a message. The prosecution has very much cherry-picked and slanted specific facts to further their narrative to do that. We intend to fight this case in the courtroom and not in the court of public opinion. We know that in the end the entire story and truth will prevail.”

And then he said this, which if it were true all he had to do was communicate with the DA what their intentions were and the time and place.

“They were scared, they were terrified,” Smith said. “They were figuring out what to do, getting finances in order. Unlike the prosecution, we weren’t attempting to make this a media spectacle. This case is absolutely the saddest, most tragic, worst case imaginable. There is absolutely no doubt. But our clients were absolutely going to turn themselves in. It was just a matter of logistics.”

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So they need government handouts, got it. Seems like a typical Republican mindset: government bad, and shouldn’t help people who need it… unless it’s me that needs help.

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Elysium. That tracks. Modern cult leaders learned the power of SF tropes from Elron.

The “elites keeping miraculous medical technologies to themselves” narrative is then tied in with “replacement theory”, where white Americans die off more quickly and lose demographic dominance because they don’t have access.

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But they missed their arraignment hearing. You show up to court on their time, not yours. If I had missed my recentish court date, there would be a bench warrant for me not showing up. Over car tags. It wouldn’t have matter if I had planned to show up the next day, I was supposed to be in court then.

They made their situation 10x worse.

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They were figuring out what to do, getting finances in order. . . . our clients were absolutely going to turn themselves in. It was just a matter of logistics.”

Don’t you see, there’s no need to arrest us. We’ll turn ourselves in when we’re good and ready to turn ourselves in!

White privilege is a helluva drug.

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I think that checks out. A lot of conspiracy theories and… other kind of related grifts and variously disordered ways of thinking, as well as a wide assortment of propaganda… all that was already out in the wild and people kind caught up in any of it started intersecting through Q and bonding over shared sympathies.

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Seething Season 21 GIF by The Bachelor

Once again, for the people in the back (not you, GH). Non-citizen (but documented) immigrants are generally afforded health care or benefits in the USA, but immigrants on the whole bring in more tax revenue than they actually utilize. Immigration helps the economy!

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It’s some serious compartmentalization to think they aren’t closely related though.

You know, if some hobby that I loved turned out to be hurting people, I would accept restrictions on it, or regretfully give up on entirely if I had to. That’s not an idle boast. There are things I used to love doing with friends in person, and don’t work nearly so well over the internet, that have still moved there or stopped because of covid. I can look over right now and see my board games in my closet, where they have been for almost two years now. They’re just not worth risking other people for.

I wish gun hobbyists would take their hobby the same way, instead of taking it as sacrosanct and looking the other way on the very possibility it might be causing problems.

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I just knew right wing media would take a stance of “let’s get on the side of the school shooter and/or his parents” - I just wasn’t sure how they would thread this needle.

Now that they are directing their rage at the prosecutor for charging the parents as also being responsible for the deaths of the students (not unreasonable since they furnished their son’s weapon and knew he was having violent fantasies - and an ability to act out on them).

Just waiting for them to defend the shooter now and concoct some excuse for him to have been “exercising his second amendment rights.”

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I’ve heard this before, in person, and the offending party absolutely refused to believe that “cancer” is a catch all term referring to a group of diseases, so there is no one single cure all. After about 5 minutes of back and forth, I realized they were a conspiridiot, cut off the conversation.

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I think his drawings should have been a red flag because they depicted him killing people in a specific way. (At least, that’s what I read) Kids do draw fucked up stuff (so do adults!) and it usually doesn’t mean anything sinister. But when a kid draws or writes about themself commiting a particular violent act, that is much more of a concern. Like with self-violence. Writing or drawing about suicide signifies little. But when the kid writes or draws detailed imagery of hurting themself, that is suicidal ideation and a big red flag.

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“He felt threatened. They were coming right at him with CRT!”

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Also, the text that accompanied the two drawings – “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me” and “Blood everywhere” – would be ignored only by the most incompetent mandatory reporter (which the teachers weren’t) and taken together with the depictions of the deadly Xmas gift would only be dismissed by the most depraved parents (which these were)

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“The only true way to celebrate the birth of our lord, Christ, the Saviour.”
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Yet somehow saying, “Happy Holidays” is the real offense for these folks.

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