Watch: Self-driving Teslas run over child-sized dummies "over and over again," according to safety advocacy ad

We might care. Maybe. We’ll never really know for sure because the insulation blanket of cash surrounding Musk will keep him from any meaningful consequences of his misbehavior. Even if they MAKE him buy Twitter, and he loses, say, $20 billion dollars in the process, he will STILL have about $200 BILLION left over.

BILLION.

$1 billion dollars is enough that you could not reasonably spend in a couple of LIFETIMES without breaking into the multiple-mega-mansion/superyacht lifestyle. With a billion dollars, you could live an obscene lifestyle each and every day, a nearly limitless well of hookers and blow or whatever your thing is. Musk has 200x that amount.

We need to make fines based on percentage of wealth, for both individuals and corporations. A speeding ticket should cost him a several hundred thousand at a minimum. Other countries do it this way.

Musk has never been THAT smart. He was born rich and had the good fortune to be able to buy his way into some lucrative opportunities. The only thing he’s ever had more of than most people is MONEY. So hit him where it’ll HURT.

Of course, this being America in 2022, the odds of that ever happening are so vanishingly small they are effectively zero.

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i think there’s likely a role for trucks and busses. especially for interstate trucking. give them their own divided lane and let them go.

id imagine australia would probably go first, with its highways straight across the continent

whether the loss of jobs is good for people? i’d despise a job driving long haul, but some people say they love it

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“Sir! One of our cars hit a child!”
“That’s awful! But wait, how come there are six thumps on the recording?”
“Oh, it didn’t quite kill him on the first try, so it backed up for another go.”

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To reduce confusion, Autopilot will henceforth be known as Maximum Overdrive.

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It seems like any use case where things are regular and predictable enough for self-driving trucks is a case where rail would be more efficient :steam_locomotive:

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Won’t some AI think of the children! :weary:

Obligatory awesome film quote:

Narrator : [20:35] A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don’t do one.

Woman on Plane : Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?

Narrator : You wouldn’t believe.

Woman on Plane : Which car company do you work for?

Narrator : A major one.

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It just isn’t the same with the human drivers.

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Welcome, and sorry your first post was to relay such an unpleasant situation. Do come back and let us know how the lawsuit ends, some time.

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I suspect Australia does not need this and cannot afford the infrastructure cost to build out specialist roads many hundreds of miles long across the outback. Their road trains (@smulder) have been in operation a long time and always, I’m told, get right of way, on the ‘might is right’ principle, simply because stopping takes a very long time. You see one coming (or hear it) and you get out of the way, STAT! Everyone knows those guys can’t stop and so won’t bother slowing down if they can avoid it. And they can’t do much swerving to avoid obstacles, either.

Check out the video - especially from shortly after about one minute in. (But I have no idea how the video gets the yellow infinity truck image from - it is NOT in the video!)
And from about 2.45 it’s not about long trucks but something even more wild, in trucking terms.

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That sounds rather like a railway.

Speaking of Elon Musk and trains:

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Well, I guess “just run them over if they’re too small to damage the car” technically is a solution to the trolley problem. :flushed:

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The section about the modular heavy movers is astonishing. Very Thunderbirds.

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I worked in AI for 25 years, and this analysis is spot-on. What people never get about these algorithms is that they work 90% of the time, but getting that last 10% is immensely difficult and can take decades. For many applications, that last 10% may not be obtainable if the variables are too chaotic. However once you hit that 90%, you can sell it as perfect and most consumers will think it is perfect. Accurate results are asymptotic though, never quite reaching 100%. It gets exponentially more difficult to squeeze more effectiveness out of it. When pressured to do so, engineers tend to load up the algorithm with special cases which always collapse under their own weight sooner or later.

In most applications, that’s fine. Siri misunderstands you and it’s amusing at best or annoying at worst. In cars, somebody dies.

This xkcd applies to how all AI engineers feel about self-driving car tech, except the ones who work at Tesla (who would feel this way if they were allowed to, I’m sure):

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indiscriminately mow down children

That’s terrible! This needs to be shelved until it can reliably mow down only the 40% or so of children who deserve it.

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Watch the interview with Everyday Astronaut and you’ll see he is brilliant, and even a good leader. He’s still a dick, but a brilliant dick who is brilliant at shaping the reality distortion field to his needs.

Underestimate him at your peril.

Let’s put 5 mannequins in direct line and one mannequin off to the left and watch Tesla solve the trolley problem.

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Good leaders let racism run rampant in their work places, sexually harass people, and cover up bullshit about their companies? :thinking: Because he’s done all that.

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Verifiable citation required.

Apparently, when you’re rich, White, straight and male, none of that stuff matters.

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i mean, he single handed saved space travel by taking workers away from NASA and getting major subsides and then the planet by being the only person to ever sell an overpriced electric car! /s

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I have no idea why you think an interview would reveal those things. Wouldn’t the way to tell if he is a good leader be to look at what happens when he leads?

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