Libertarian socialism is basically the opposite of capital L Libertarianism.
It basically goes: everyone has rights and responsibilities. Since corporations aren’t people they have to pay back any kind of damage and externalities they cause and also don’t have rights since they’re not people.
Academics and professionals didn’t seem to mind the advancement opportunities left by removing and murdering a significant part of the population
It kind of sucks that people keep getting caught up in the words, as opposed to how works are being deployed here. The modern right wing Libertarian party certainly did not define that word, but used it to make themselves seem like they were in favor of greater freedom, which they’re really not, at least not for anyone who isn’t already rich (and often times, white, straight, and even Christian or at least “culturally” Christian - which is really just a new way to say “white”). Words do matter, of course, but so are how and why they are being used. By the 20th, there was a big enough labor movement, and enough radical political movements to put the fear of god into the elites, and so they started looking for ways to use the same language to peel off people from these movements. It’s a group of people who really have no good ideas for ensure a good society for all it’s members, so they pretend that ensuring their own wealth and prosperity is the same thing…
Twelve posts into the thread you started?
Oh right, it’s because you’re getting dragged.
As I always say, when this particular idiocy crops up:
If you believe that the Nazis were socialist because of their use of the word in their name, then you must also believe in those shining examples of democratic governance- The German Democratic Republic and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.
Does that mean they like the Clintons and Nancy Pelosi over there?
Not right now with North Korea, because they are good, because Trump likes Kim, so they are good now… But of course, the Clintons and Pelosi are just like East Germany, because they were bad! /s
Western style democracy means we hang cattle rustlers. Convince me it doesn’t. I’ll even start a thread.
Western style democracy used to tar and feather bad cops. Then run them out of town on a rail.
Sounds idyllic.
A Democratic society is a classless society,
And Mormons. They did that to Mormons, too.
Neither of which the GDR and the DPRK actually have… so there we go!
It still comes back to people not understanding the key difference between ideological deployments of language and the lived meaning of a word or phrase.
Yo mama’s a classless society
Typically after the mormons did something to deserve it. Like smash up the printing presses. Or Danites were ordered to make death threats against the governor. That kind of thing.
Brigham Young did a lot to earn that bloody Brigham nickname.
Look at all the happy arbeiters whistling while they work to build the autobahn for their czech “inspired” Punch Buggies. Due North, for the good of the nation. Next stop- the world!
Pay no attention to Fascist Thomas the Tank Engine behind the curtain heading the opposite way. Close your curtains if it’s easier to forget your friend looting the nation’s “nest egg”.
It reminds of my Chilean friend, whose family got the hell out while Pinochet was in power. She said, But you can’t say he didn’t do a lot for the people! (Who kept their heads down on the chopping block).
I think it’s easier for her to say because she didn’t witness it first hand. I somehow doubt her family still in Chile ever introduced her to Violeta Parra.
That’s some GamerGate levels of redirection there.
Trump Administration response: Nothing to see here. Move along
Mannomann, du stellst aber dumme Fragen!
Yo mama’s so classless she could be a Marxist utopia.
Allegedly.
I’m not sure that the politcal meanings and the lived meanings of various phrases have much in common.
Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
