It’s the irresistible force vs immovable object question I didn’t realise I needed answered.
Liefeld can always draw pouches.
Liefeld cannot draw feet.
So what happens when Liefeld draws feet… which are pouches?
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Just read the headline. My condolences to Rob, I did not realize he had lost his penis
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Mod note: it’s one thing to disagree with a post or it’s Author - that happens all the time and as a group blog, Authors often disagree with each other. But the line is drawn at insults thrown against your fellow mutants or the post’s Author.
Debate the position, don’t attack the person.
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The trailer looks fine to me. And I haven’t seen many other prominent complaints about it.
If anything, I wish they’d leaned a little harder into the retro horror vibe. (And that we’d seen more than a glimpse of Man-Thing.)
As for “The Dark Knight” as the One True Superhero Film – it was an excellent movie, primarily because of Ledger’s Joker and Wally Pfister’s cinematography, but the idea that the only way to make a good comic book movie is to ape Nolan’s direction is… artistically anemic. Nolan’s Batman movies work well because the modern Batman is generally considered a darker, more noir-themed character.
How would Nolan’s direction work on Superman or the Justice League? We’ve already seen that, because “Batman v Superman” and “Justice League” were shot in Nolan’s style – and they didn’t work well. Superman is a more optimistic character, and you need a different director to shoot that movie. In fact, most of DC’s other movies have been less grimdark, and they’ve been better movies.
Grimdark doesn’t work for every movie. Works fine for hard-edged noir, works well for torture-porn movies. Doesn’t work well for everything.
I’d love it if y’all read Grant Morrison’s “Supergods.” He has an excellent grasp on how and why superhero fiction works, and it would make y’all better educated when y’all post about superhero/comic book content.
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Well my comments were removed because I “attacked” the author. Fair enough, I did. My apologies. I’ll leave those attacks deleted. I don’t wish to imply anyone here literally has brain worms and I have no right to make fun of anyone for implying that Batman 2 is High Cinema while simultanously calling Captain America 3 mediocre junk, or to make fun of someone for stating that the Netflix shows aren’t MCU canon when they are. Everyone is entitled to to be wrong if they want to, and I’m in no place to judge them or attack them for it. Kumbaya. I must say though that this post disappointed me. I have come to appreciate Boingboing as a safe space for nerds who like to enjoy nerdy things. Most of the posts shine a spotlight on cool things, and when there is a post that shines a spotlight on a bad thing, the criticism is thoughtful and well articulated. This post did not meet those standards. It was just mean and hateful, and not for any clear reason. It’s not the kind of content I wish to see on Boingboing.
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So, the director is getting his debut after writing the scores for Doctor Strange and three Spiderman movies.
And the IMDB synopsis gives away part of the mystery. 
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Awesome. Carry on Marvel.
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I don’t mean gritty. I’m talking about a film that endeavors to look at superheroes as something more than mindless popcorn flicks.
Marvel has gotten themselves to the point where they can’t even adapt their material properly. They have to undercut everything with a joke, and they wont even let directors tell THEIR own stories. Everything has to fit into the Marvel tone.
Case in point…The Immortal Hulk is one of the best selling and critically acclaimed comics of the last decade. In a perfect world, Marvel could adapt this comic with a competent horror director and make a interesting flick. But if you think Disney would put this…
…on their summer blockbuster slate, you’re crazy.
Its not about grit, it’s not about Marvel having levity. I’m not against jokes.
I’m talking about allowing superheroes to express a variety of emotions and tones in an artistic manner. As it stands, the MCU produces inoffensive popcorn flicks…and that’s not bad. But it does limit the range of storytelling these characters are capable.
And for the record, Captain America: The Winter Soldier is my favorite Marvel movie.
Anyway, that’s my rant. I’m not trying to tear down anyone’s enjoyment. It’s just my opinon, guys. Like what you like. It’s a wide and wonderful world with enough joy for everyone.
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Dude, I LOVE superheroes.
I’m just bored of films that make the genre seem homogeneous and childish.
Superheroes can express any tone or topic, but if you watch the MCU, you’d never know that.
But again, that’s my opinion. If you’re a nerd, you’re still among friends…we just disagree on this.
I’m sure we’ll agree on other stuff in the future, insha’Allah.
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They may well be canon, but the question is are they marvel studios’ work, or are they Netflix’s work?
The events can be 100% canon, but the tone of the work may well vary from Marvel Studios without reflecting on Marvel Studio’s ability to make movies with a different tone if in fact Netflix was holding the reigns.
(I’m not actually even saying they did – maybe Marvel Studio’s decided to try another tone, and use Netflix shows to do it because they wouldn’t be quite as closely associated with any sort of failure attributed to a different tone…or even it was different because diferent bits of MS did it, and maybe we will see different tones in the MS movies – you did after all come up with the heist movie examples, and those were clearly marvel studios movies)
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But is that what the goal should be? I’m perfectly happy with Winter Soldier being the equivalent of The Parallax View/Three Days of the Condor.
Trying to recreate the dark night lead DC to being the Synderverse. And say what you will about Marvel - they dodged that bullet.
As far as Matt Murdoch being funny - you don’t guest on SNL and do a dramatic reading.
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Marvel has 40+ years of decent Hulk stories from comics before they ever have to desconstruct it all by doing stories like Immortal Hulk. That story devels into obscure comic history too much to be anything more than an incoherent mess on the big screen. Humor has been part of marvel books since Fantastic Four #1. Why gripe about it now.? Marvel (thankfully) isn’t DC.
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Thor Ragnarok was one of the best Marvel films and was almost a flat out comedy. Try and do Deadpool or Spider-Man without humor. It’s in Marvel’s DNA.
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Woah, woah, woah.
You almost sound like you want to enjoy these things.
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They were the work of Marvel Television, which was a parallel entity to Marvel Studios, but which has since been transferred to Marvel Studios and absorbed by them or shut down, depending on your perspective. All of the Netflix shows, as well as other live action Marvel Television productions like Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Inhumans, and Cloak and Dagger, were originally intended to be part of the MCU, but there wasn’t a lot of coordination or cooperation between Marvel Television and Marvel Studios, so the canonicity of the Marvel Television productions was always a bit ambiguous. Certainly, the final couple of seasons of AoS are, at the very least, in an alternate timeline. Regardless, with the appearances of Daredevil and Kingpin in No Way Home and Hawkeye, the Netflix shows would presumably now be considered canon and officially part of the MCU.
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There were also several references to the events of the movies in the various Netflix series. IIRC Daredevil even cited the aftermath of the Battle of New York as their explanation for why Hell’s Kitchen (now largely gentrified in real life) was still a crime-ridden ghetto in the Marvel universe.
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Absolutely. The ambiguity came primarily from the lack of any mention of the Netflix characters in the MCU films. In other words, it always seemed to go one direction. Daredevil would reference events of the Avengers movie, but the reverse never happened. Also, the Netflix shows never named any of the Avengers or other MCU heroes by name. They’d mention a green monster or a god but never name them. That’s why I used the word ambiguity. It was never made explicit until Charlie Cox’s cameo in No Way Home.
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Well, almost never.
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Never say never. I wasn’t expecting them to make Zombie Captain America a meet-and-greet character in their parks but they went ahead and did that.
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I stand corrected
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