No, why would you think that? Because my grandparents owned an orchard?
Just curious.
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Iâm sorry, I really tried to h-hold it in⌠but I couldnât do it, and now I canât stop laughing.
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Where is your source?
1994-2014?
2014 is the relevant and most current data on state by state median household income, from the U.S. Census Bureau. The data will be updated in 2016.
Here is the well known source that democrats can use to demonstrate how states that are governed by democratic legislators, governors or at least one branch of governmentâhave a medium household incomes greater than states controlled by republican legislators or governors.
Combine the below data with the fact that most of the republican controlled states are anti-union and have passed union busting right to work laws and laws designed to take away the collective bargaining rights of unions, which lower wages.
Combine the below data with the fact that in republican controlled states, they have denied healthcare to millions of their citizens by denying expansion of Medicaid available through the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, because of a racist, politically motivated âor bothâ reaction to President Obama.
The data from the following website is taken from: The U.S. Census Bureauâs annual medium household income reports for 2014.
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Household-Incomes-by-State.php
https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/statemedian/ (Click on Median Household Income by StateâSingle Year Estimates), third link from bottom of home page.
In 2014 the median household family income was $53, 657.
Virtually all the states controlled by democratic governors, state legislatures or one branch of government, have a median household income above the national average. The overwhelming majority of states controlled by republican governors or state legislatures have a median household income below the national average.
Republican:
Alabama 42,278âArkansas 44,922âFlorida 46,140âGeorgia 49,555âKentucky 42,786âSouth Carolina 44,929âTennessee 43,716âSouth Dakota 53,053âOklahoma 47,199âOhio 49,644âNorth Carolina 46,784âNew Mexico 46,686, Indiana 48,060âMaine 51,710 etcâŚ
Mississippi has a unbelievable 35,521 state household median income.
Democrat:
California 60,487âColorado 60,940âConnecticut 70,161âD.C.â68,277âDelaware 57,522âHawaii 71,223âIllinois 54,916âMaryland 76,165âMassachusetts 63,151âMinnesota 67,244âNew Hampshire 73,397âNew York 54,310âOregon 58,875âPennsylvania 55,173âRhode Island 58,633âVermont 60,708âVirginia 66,155âWashington 59,068.
West Virginia (39,552), has a democratic governor, but republicans control the state senate and house.
New Jersey (65,243), has a republican governor, but democrats control the state senate and house.
Louisiana (42,406), has a democratic governor who was just elected in 2016. In 2014 the state had a republican governor and still has a republican controlled state senate and house.
Well advised, but unlikely to. Have you not noticed HRC supporters pivot away from Bernieâs platform in reaction to his criticisms of HRC? Suddenly campaign finance just isnât a problem, government accountability just isnât a problem, breaking up banks isnât possible, etc. etc. In a way, Iâd prefer it if they were in denial of HRCâs funding sources rather than simply brushing off concerns about said sources as being overly alarmist.
The Dems donât care. They are too busy celebrating the crumbling of the GOP to realize that they built their foundation in the same soil thatâs currently giving way. I want to cup my hands around my mouth and yell at them, âThis is not a typical election!â But they canât hear me over the sound of champagne corks popping.
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That is simply a already tired media and republican talking point.
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton is no republican. Every republican presidential candidate believed and espoused the same sexist, xenophobic, racist, discriminatory, anti-immigrant etcâŚrhetoric as Trump.
They had no political and social angleâor basis to attack or refute Trump, because they were just like him-- and in many cases several of them were worst.
Trump will answer for his past comments and positions. Saying one thing in the republican primary, then saying something different in the general election is not pivoting or acting more presidentialâit is insulting to the intelligence of voters; and pathologically showing disdain and lying about who you areâand what you really stand for.
Trump is facing a democrat in the general electionâand Hillary and her many surrogates are going to dismantle the tea bag party bigot, Donald John Trump.
But she is a NeoLiberal, which is ideology that killed the Republican Party.
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The Dems donât care. They are too busy celebrating the crumbling of the GOP to realize that they built their foundation in the same soil thatâs currently giving way.
And so it goes.
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You certainly have a right to your opinion, itâs just wrong and based on diddly.
I had to look back at your link to see which of my assertions you were referring to. In what way is saying that [quote=âd_r, post:602, topic:72574â]
Trump is going to go full-on Trump on her, and he is a master at tearing people down without it reflecting badly back on himself.[/quote]
either tired or a Republican talking point? I think it is so likely as to make doubting it even wackier than believing that pyramids were flying machines for magicians practitioners of ancient knowledge.
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[quote=âkhepra, post:665, topic:72574, full:trueâ]
You certainly have a right to your opinion, itâs just wrong and based on diddly.
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@khepra FTFY.
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Yeah⌠Kasim Reed is pretty much a corporate shill. If anyone is out of touch with poor Atlantans, itâs him. I even once heard him talking about his election campaign, going door to door (it was in a working class, majority black neighborhood - Peoplestown, maybe - which is essentially being torn down now in order to âstop floodingâ in the area and turned into a park!), and it was clear that he had no clue what was going on in their lives. He talked about an older woman who had to explain things to him. He turned it into a talking point for his eventually victory, but itâs pretty clear he doesnât have the slightest clue what life is liking in gentrifying, working class neighborhoods, especially given his unwillingness to do anything productive about the numerous buildings going up that cater to the middle/upper classes.
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I assume this is a response to my comment above. And sorry, I thought I linked my source which was the census bureau data you link. I also realize I misread your point. @Medievalist had said that the economy is doing poorly, and you countered this by saying that the economy was doing well in democrat controlled states and poorly in republican controlled ones. What you actually said was that median incomes are higher in democrat controlled states than republican controlled ones, but I misread it and thought you meant that economic conditions had improved more in democrat controlled states than republican controlled ones.
So I see that calculation you are making and it is correct.
But it is completely irrelevant to the point you were apparently refuting. Democratic states being better off financially than republican states could be construed as evidence that you should think about voting for the Democrats over the Republicans. It is not evidence that the economy did well under Obama. A decline of median income in six of seven democratic states and 30 of 50 states overall is at least some evidence that the economy did not do well under Obama.
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I think the way I would word it, taking all the political backstory into account, is to say that the economy did less badly under Obama than it would have under a Republican president.
Especially when you consider that Congress has spent 8 years purposely blocking Obama, but they would have spread out the red carpet for anything a Republican president wanted. We could have been in a very serious hole by now, way worse than we are.
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A DN! Discussion with Kshama Sawant and Mike McGinn about Bernie or Bust. Both Pros and cons.
Ugh. Is that asshole still mayor? Atlanta city politics are so⌠well⌠you know.
Shit. Shitâs a good word.
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First, sorry Iâm out of likes!
But yeah. Still the head honcho. I think his term is coming to an end soon, though. how about Killer Mike for Mayor?
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I liked McGinn. This is funny/depressing though:
I raised questions about a megaproject, a major boondoggle, which was
supported by the Chamber and all the powerful interests. And I did beat
an incumbent and win.
Said boondoggle is being built anyway.
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Especially when you realize that median is skewed by massive income increases at one end of the range. (See edit below) Unfunded wars and handouts for millionaires will do that, of course.
I donât think we can know for sure, and certainly the major economic problems I just mentioned (unfunded wars and handouts to millionaires) were the same under Obama as under Bush, but youâre probably right anyway.
And in any case Iâm pretty certain the economy did less badly than it would have under Sarah Palin as president, so thereâs that.
Edit: @anon50609448 points out that I am stupidly confusing the median and the mean. I will leave it uncorrected as a warning to future generations that nobody should trust my grasp of math! Iâm pretty good at logic, and should just stick to my area of competency.
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