Hillary Clinton is a corporatist:
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Spike Lee has endorsed Bernie Sanders. Spike Lee is a big player in the black community, so if heâs supporting Bernie then Bernie must be doing something right.
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No need to point out your spelling and grammar errors. Like the both of us, everybody makes spelling and grammar mistakes.
I think people who cite spelling and grammar errors instead of addressing the debate at hand, have no credible reasoning, justification or explanation for their point of view.
I may disagree with you but I understand quite well your stated point of view.
Well he did something to win Spike Leeâs endorsement and vote. Not sure how much that will help Bernie with the African-American vote. We will find out when the South Carolina Primary is held Saturday and Super Tuesday on March 1st.
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Does it count as hate speech to say that to a furry?
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I vote no.
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Presumptuous. Maybe Spike Lee pays attention.
I seriously doubt the man is so simple as to give an endorsement over a specific act. Perhaps Mr. Lee considered that Sanders has the highest approval rating in the Senate, and the lowest disapproval rating. Could be that Mr. Lee observed Sanders consistently rating 100% with many respected agencies that rate politicians on particular positions, like the NAACP or the NHLA or NOW or damn near any other.
Clinton manages to get some 100% ratings from some of those same organizations, but not as consistently or consistently high as Sanders. Her approval ratings never really approached his among constituents, not for political work anyway. They topped out at 70% back in the 90s, but that was when she was First Lady, and even those ratings were only achieved directly after the Lewinsky incidence, before that she ranged much lower, from high 50s to 30s, which mirrors her approval ratings as a politician in her own right rather than First Lady.
I think itâs entirely possible that Mr. Lee considered their respective careers, associations and positionsâŚbut hey, maybe Sanders âdid somethingâ to get the endorsementâŚnah I kid, thereâs pretty much Zero chance of that.
Thereâs one other possibility, itâs in line with my first paragraph, where I submit that perhaps Mr. Lee forms his opinion independently of Mr. Sanders.
We could ask Mr. Lee!
But how can we gain access to such a figure! Impossible! Improbable on a good day!
Whatever shall we do!? How will we ever know what Sanders did to get that endorsement!?
Wait, itâs on the tip of my tongueâŚthought formingâŚHEY EUREKA, Weâll read something about the fucking endorsement and listen to it too!!! Thatâs got to be it!
https://berniesanders.com/press-release/spike-lee-endorses-sanders-in-radio-ad/
Holy shit I was right, he considered the manâs history, career, positions and focus on civil rights as well as the fact heâs not bought and paid for like some politicians we can name.
Huh, so you were right too, it was something Sanders did, that thing was being Sanders.
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Spike Leeâs endorsement will matter a great deal more if it translates into more African-American votes for Bernie Sanders in South Carolina, on Super Tuesday and beyond.
Maybe it will, Iâm sure Bernie Sanders is sure hoping it will.
Bernie Sanders claim of being the ultimate liberal and progressive with a long, storied and documented history may take a hit when the âToxic Dumpâ legislation he co-sponsored in Vermont (in 1998) is made known to voters, specifically Latino voters in Texas.
From PolitiFact: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/sep/22/fact-checking-viral-graphic-critical-bernie-sander/
Bernie Sanders:
Voted to dump Vermontâs nuclear waste in a majority Latino community in Sierra Blanca, Texas
In 1998, the House of Representatives approved a compact struck between Texas, Vermont and Maine that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump low-level nuclear waste at a designated site in Sierra Blanca, Texas. Sanders, at the time representing Vermont in the House, cosponsored the bill and actively ushered it through Congress.
Located about 16 miles from the Mexican border, Sierra Blancaâs population is predominantly of Mexican ancestry. At the time, the community was about two-thirds Latino, and its residents had an average income of $8,000, according to the an article in the Bangor Daily News.
The low-level nuclear waste would include âitems such as scrap metal and workerâs gloves⌠as well as medical gloves used in radiation treatments at hospitals,â according to the Bangor Daily News. Clinton, then the First Lady, did not have a vote on the matter
Haha, good god Clintonâs team is getting pathetic, looking back 20 years to a debatable NIMBY battle on nuclear issues, one of the most contentious & convoluted multi-faceted debates available ?
I lived in Texas throughout the 90âs, and this issue made the papers then and what happens in Texas isnât now and wasnât then up to Sanders. In fact that compact demanded his cooperation, and the forces that rallied to the aid of the residents of Sierra Blanca would rally to the aid of anyone, anywhere, unlooked for, even unwanted, as their mandate is to oppose any and all aspects of nuclear power generation using any means available. Iâm all for that. Thereâs plenty of ways to generate energy.
And all that aside, it is pretty weak that you have to resort to deep, debatable dredging like this, and pick a 2o year back outlier, ----in response to a comparative overview of the 2 contenders----.
Itâs not as pathetic as when you tried to blame Sanders for the fact that a white man in the USA was elected President despite being a racist ----in the 1930s----⌠that was probably the most pathetic bit youâve had but Iâm not sure, havenât read all your text walls, they arenât informative enough. Putting aside that Sanders was commenting on FDR in regard to labour issues, and not civil liberties. Thatâs abuse of both context, and history, by you.
But TBH, you drop boilerplate in debate, that makes you weaksauce, boring. Get better at this, it may be hard for you, but give it a shot. You can defend and promote your candidate without being slippery. You being slippery makes people want to retch, and that means your end effect is that when people read you, and think of Clinton, they want to retch.
So yeah, they arenât getting their moneyâs worth out of you, even if they arenât paying you. Try Harder.
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Well,
Bernie Sanders is looking back almost 50 years to a video of when he was arrested for protesting.
What is the point of uncovering this videoâand specifically bringing up the video of his arrest?
What is the point of you banging your head on this wall? Nobody here gives a flying fuck what you have to say.
Maybe youâre paid by the word?
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No he isnât. His supporters are, and so apparently are some of his detractors.
The point I suppose would be having an accurate portrayal of Sanders then and now.
His ratings as a senator on policy, position, votes and like by agencies such as the NAACP and others that I mentioned take care of the now, despite the other side trying (stupidly*) to portray him as otherwise. The past conforming with the present portrays consistency, which is likely why it is galling to an an opponent or the team of an opponent that canât hope to demonstrate that consistency for their own contender, not by a long shot.
*stupidly wasting time on an opponent when the electorate wants to hear about, 24/7, what the contenders will do to fix a pile of broken systems? Ohhhhh, got a status quo candidate do ya? Thatâs too badâŚ
edit : Forgot to add, in the vein of my recommendation to try harder, donât start a response/rebuttal with âWellâŚâ For your own sake Iâll tell you that linguistically that is a concession of my point, for my sake Iâll ask you because, say it out loud, do you hear it? Itâs annoying.
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Great job by Hillary in tonightâs Town Hall in Columbia, South Carolina on the campus of the University of South Carolina.
Below is an important development for Hillary Clinton and the African-American vote in South Carolina, Super Tuesday and beyond-- more significant and important than an endorsement from Spike Lee. Clintonâs Most Valuable Allies in South Carolina: the Moms of Black Lives Matter.
Mothers From âBlack Lives Matterâ Campaign for Hillary Clinton
Then sheâs become a stooge, like you.
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The article I posted was about âMothers From âBlack Lives Matterâ Campaign for Hillary Clintonâ
You are calling African-American women who have had their unarmed children, husbandâs or loved ones murdered by the police or died in police custodyââstoogesâ for campaigning for and supporting Hillary Clinton.
Your comment does nothing to further the case for Bernie Sanders campaign in South Carolina, on Super Tuesday or in future primaries and caucuses.
Theyâre someone in denial about Hillary being as right wing as George W Bush and Thatcher
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Your reply to me is a non sequitur, it does not follow from our discussion. Or you replied to me in error.
If you were replying to me, what youâve got here as your response is propagandizing, not debate or discussion.
But since you did, itâs was all in the article, the BLM mothers doubtless believe theyâve chosen their candidate and say that they were not induced in any way to make their endorsements or speak up for Clinton. The article goes on to reveal that each mother was in turn contacted by and specifically solicited for endorsement by the Clinton team, and that they all met with Clinton on many occasions prior to their endorsement, the subject of those meetings? What Clinton could do or say to secure those endorsements.
That doesnât mean theyâve done anything wrong, but it is a contradiction, they did not flow naturally to Clintonâs side based on policy, position or principle or history.
Iâve worked with famous people and powerful people and powerful famous people in their own right. I know & have witnessed firsthand what happens to average people when they become the centre of attention or a desired ally of such a person. It is overwhelming to most people, and Clinton & company seem to know it quite well. They made a mistake in presenting these endorsements as natural when they were openly solicited, even courted, specifically for the campaign, by the campaign.
It diminishes the integrity of the endorsement, the BLM, Clinton and her staff. Excepting that I know this from having seen it before, and being able to parse an article to find both consistencies and contradictions. Nothing wrong with soliciting endorsements, but misrepresentation is regrettable, especially when it was arranged to come from the mouth of the endorser, when it was clearly the machinations of the endorsee & their staff.
It likely doesnât matter in the least to Clinton or her staff, who play quite cynically and cunningly, even their own supporters describe them thus. And the public for the most part wonât notice.
But I do, and so do you. You non sequitur set you up the bomb, read the article more carefully next time.
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Or worse, a volunteer shill.
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Itâs also quite common in the upper Midwest. Regional speech patterns do bother people from other regions often enough, but that doesnât mean the speaker is trying to offend.
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