Why the Enterprise bridge on Star Trek: TOS doesn't actually face forward

In a world with transporters and replicators, what need is there for a room with a toilet? I always assumed the replicators used all the waste from the ship, crew included. Need to poo? Just have it transported to the replicator input tanks.

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Um… read the second half of the comment you responded to?

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As with so many television shows, where the exterior and interior are completely mismatched. Most people don’t notice or care, so each is selected or designed to serve their own needs with minimal obligation to be consistent with the others. Every sitcom suffers from the same problem.

Lucy and Ricky’s apartment had a window in earlier seasons but a blank wall in later ones. The Brady Bunch house has a one-story exterior but two-story interior (plus a tall attic in the late seasons). The main apartment in Friends has a balcony and sloped windows that clearly do not exist in the exterior shot. The scenery outside the windows of Leonard and Sheldon’s apartment changes from early episodes to later ones, and the first-episode glimpse of Penny’s apartment shows a completely different layout than what’s seen in the rest of the series–I guess the universe is expanding. The Odd Couple (2015) didn’t have coat closet near the front door until a mid season script called for one. The hallway to the pool room in the bar from Cheers changed width as needed, notably to roll in Sam’s bachelor party cake from which Diane emerged. The Mad About You apartment in 2019 is substantially larger than the original (a change so obvious they tried to laugh it off with a joke).

Oh, and the Death Star’s iconic equatorial trench is not the one the rebels raced through to get to the exhaust port. That trench was perpendicular to the big one. I know, that’s not a sitcom.

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It uses TARDIS tech. That is the reason the inner side doesn’t match the outside.

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This is one of those things that should be obvious, but somehow everyone (myself included) assumes wrong. We see a close view of the equatorial trench when the Millennium Falcon is being pulled in, and it’s clearly much wider and has docking bays along the “floor” of the trench. It looks nothing like the narrow, solid-floored trench we see later. This also explains why the schematics in the briefing later on “incorrectly” show the Death Star’s big laser dish in the center of the trench. All of this indicates that this isn’t even a fan retcon, but the way it was intended from the beginning… yet pretty much all us assumed it was the equatorial trench anyway, despite the evidence the movie gives to the contrary.

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The interior shots of the bridge showing a fair amount of the dome suggest it’s all opaque - if only part is supposed to be an illuminated window, why is the whole dome equally bright? Of course, given tv show constraints, it’s possible they just put together a basic ceiling for the set that we were never supposed to see, so those rare interior shots don’t really mean anything. My skepticism that there was supposed to be a window there is more based on the lack of evidence - the characters/scripts don’t reference a window (no one, as far as I can remember, looks up as if there’s something to see), the designs and concept art don’t clearly show any such thing, etc. What we have is one shot of a pass-through transition in a remastered pilot that may have only been there to make it clear where the bridge was on the ship. Even if someone involved in the show had an idea that there was supposed to be a window there, but the set designers, writers, directors and actors were unaware, does it actually (fictionally) exist?

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come with me if you want to live

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It was in the original pilot, and the clip show they adapted from it—they wouldn’t have bothered to re-do any effects in 1966

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Hahahaha! I should read the whole comment before leaping in! I was too eager to make a poo joke.

But you didn’t complete the transporter → replicator → lower GI track loop.

But now that I look it up, “waste” might not have been used. The Wikipedia entry suggests replicators just create any matter from energy.

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I think you’re right, though. If I remember right, an episode of Discovery made it canon that the waste recycled into food thing is real, although that episode was set in the far future relative to the other series.

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Have a couple of beers (or whatever) and watch it like it were a sitcom. Hilarity ensues.

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Nevermind the bathrooms, what about the holodecks after Reg has finished in there? Or worse yet, whichever poor sod has to muck out Quark’s holosuites.

:fearful:

Worth a repost.

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well i also have the other arguments i made above, and more importantly my headcanon.

i mean, heck, i still believe the view screen was a window whenever it needed to be. so i’m hopeless. but i do appreciate the effort to correct my interpretation of a fictional universe - or at least give up my understanding for yours. if i ever do change my mind i’ll be sure to let you know

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Thx for posting that video, that’s the first I’ve had a chance to see the video and not just a still shot for that. That’s pretty clearly “evidence” ( :wink: ) that the nub on the hull is not the elevator (and how did elevator become “turbolift” anyway?):

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… also that the bridge is Bigger On The Inside?

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“Lift” is the British word for “elevator” but doesn’t sound sufficiently futuristic and “Turboelevator” just sounds silly.

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Yep.

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