Wonder Woman smashes box office records

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The specific example doesnt always prove a general pattern.

Agents of SHIELD is still going despite a pretty weak start and overall far from “blockbuster” ratings on TV.

She hulk will not happen. As much as it pains me to say.

The issue is one of the key elements that makes her comic such a good read is that she is always 6’7" 600lb green Goliath living out a normal life as a lawyer in NYC. It would be like having an avatar tv series. It just doesn’t work.

She would be perfect as a Serialized tv show but doesn’t have the right storyline to be a blockbuster movie.

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Actually if you look at the historical marvel line up. There are only a couple of true solo characters. Almost everyone in marvel is part of a team of at the least a duo. It’s part of the culture they created a long time ago with this universe…it’s all about family. The fantastic four, avengers, X-MEN, defenders, it goes on and on.

Spider-Man and daredevil are really the two primary solo heroes.

In DC however they are all solo characters who then teamed up. They have consistently created an atmosphere of head strong and strong willed individuals who find common ground and compromise for the greater good (or evil).

The top icons Of each company are telling. For DC it’s Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman followed by the JLA, robin, teen titan, Green Lantern, Flash, And then it gets muddy. For marvel it’s Spider-Man, wolverine, avengers, X-MEN, and then the host of individuals within those two primary teams. And between the avengers and the X-MEN there is almost no one who hasn’t been a part of those families.

The other issue is of course licensing. Unfortunately some of the most known female heroes for marvel are members of the X-MEN. And marvel cannot use any of them independently. :frowning:

I’d have killed for a shadowcat and wolverine caper movie.

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I dream of the day Marvel gets her movie rights back so I can have a Storm/Black Panther movie. With Samira Wiley as Storm.

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With Fox holding the rights, don’t hold your breath.

they keep TRYING to make Sandman a movie, which I don’t think would work. It needs to be a series to work (Preacher has gotten good reviews). If DC were smart, they’d look into taking some of their weirder Vertigo series and do something with that, for TV instead of movies. I’m not sure that trying to replicate the MCU is going to work for them…

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They screwed up the film, frankly. It was not great. I heard great things about the show, but never got around to watching it. Hopefully, Preacher goes up on netflix soon, as I’m interested in seeing that.

What about the success of Logan? Not MCU, but it certainly laid the groundwork for darker themes in comic films.

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It was better than the movie.
Thats it.

LOL

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cc @anon61221983 I liked Constantine the film. It wasn’t the comic and deviated significantly from the source material; nevertheless, I found it fun and entertaining. Tilda Swinton and Peter Stormare are exceptionally fun.

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One of the best things about Sandman: it ended. At the time that was really bitter sweet, those last few months going to the comic book store knowing that this thing I’d followed since issue 1 was coming to a close but at the same time knowing that since it wasnt superhero stuff, an end was OK.

I’ll admit I havent looked at Vertigo in a few years but the last I read was the haunted house one that was kinda a spinoff of the Sandman world.

What might be good to develop for the screen?

Absolutely it wont.

The TV show had promise I was looking forward to more of it, too bad it got canceled.

I would watch Tilda take a nap, she’s sublime.
But yeah, it was not the comic, at all.

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Fox has had a decent track record for such things, not all of them successful of course. But yeah Logan was in a class of its own. For Marvel i’d say their best take on it was Jessica Jones and the fact that it was a series helped give the hero and villain time to develop. For a Black Widow movie i can’t say that it would not work as a movie, but the odds would be against them for pulling it off. However i am hopeful that Marvel will give more female characters a chance to shine, on the big screen or as a series.

I watched the first episode of the Constantine TV show, i was very enthusiastic and by the end i wrote it off as garbage. Wasn’t very interesting.

The movie, which it had the bare minimum to tie it to the comic, was at least compelling and fun to watch. I still enjoy watching it even knowing it’s fairly different from the source material.

Id agree in so many roles save in Burn After Reading. the seething hate I was filled with for that character…ugh.

For me it was opposite, I had a hard time finishing the Constatine movie. The TV show wasnt great but it had lots of potential.

But its just individual taste at the end after all.

Kinda related I recently cleared out some comics from my storage room and ended up selling off over 100 issues of Hellblazer from the late 90s to early 00s, but only the stuff I had the TPB collections of.

I still have the full original run of Sandman. Some of that stuff has followed me halfway across the US and then around the world to Japan, probably a total of 7 changes of residence.

I still need to finish getting the Absolute Sandman volumes. Only have the first two, think i’m missing 3 or 4. They’re not cheap either. I’d also really really like to get the Absolute Starman volumes, but i do have the whole comic run digitally.

For my books i’ve moved with half of them about 2-3 times now… soon to move in a month’s time. I might end up taking half of them to my parents to store for me, as much as it pains me i do need the space and not willing to part with them just yet.

I have the TBPs of Sandman, never sank the money into the fancy editions. Too expensive for me.

At some point I need to sort out my Hellboy/BPRD stuff and see if I’m missing anything. That can be part of the “sort out the horror & supernatural comics shelves” project. Actually now I wanna go re-read my Nocturnals books!

:jack_o_lantern::skull::ghost::spider:
:scream::scream_cat:

I’d like to eventually collect the Hellboy/BPRD stuff, along with Lock & Key and a few others i have not gotten around to reading :slight_smile:

Even more off topic: I still wish that the show Amazing Screw On Head would have been a thing. It’s… well… amazing.

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