For the same reason that the women shouldn’t also be charged with murder or manslaughter if these embryos got implanted and then they experienced a miscarriage or stillbirth.
Wrongful death lawsuit filed against fertility clinic after frozen embryos were dropped on the floor
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Does an embryo have original sin, or does that require actual birth?
Also, if an embryo (without a nervous system) goes to hell, the joke’s on Satan, because the embryo won’t know the difference!
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The Devil doesn’t want all those embryos because he likes to torture them, he just likes to mix them into his breakfast smoothies to piss off the evangelicals.
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Yup. Agree with you completely. Wrongful death is so ridiculous here. A fetus is not a person, period.
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I know you’re not new here, but hi, are you new here? 
There’s never been any internal consistency to fetus worshipper’s arguments. Ever. None. If they want fewer abortions from unwanted pregnancies they’d support sex ed programs that actually work instead of sticking with screaming “JUST DON’T BONE DOWN” at people. The reason is because it’s actually not about the fetuses at all, and it never was.
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I find your argument also to be perverse. A human embryo is clearly not a human being. But it is also far more than “just a lump of stuff”. There are strict rules about the kinds of experiments I’m allowed to do with a human embryo, as there should be. Just because some idiot tries to argue that an embryo is a human, it doesn’t mean we should counter by arguing that it is nothing. It is a thing full of potential, and that should be recognised and protected. For example by putting a lock on the freezer!
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That isn’t what he said, nor is it what’s being argued.
Genetic tissue has value, but not the same level of value as an actual human life.
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It’s only Biblical: the Bible says that if someone causes a woman to miscarry (but the woman lives), then he only has to pay a fine to her husband.
So they should be suing the actual person who caused the ‘miscarriage’, if they’re really being religious about it.
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I think that’s exactly what he said, hence my comment.
Here we agree.
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You think?
The comment you responded to was this:
He didn’t call it “a lump of stuff,” and he (begrudgingly) acknowledged that the value such genetic material is relative to the donors.
Oh, goody; I’m so relieved!
/s
I’m gonna move on now, because this isn’t just a philosophical conversation to me; it has potential impact on my real 3D life, personally.
Good evening and have a good weekend.
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I really don’t know what I’ve done to upset you, but that was not my intention.
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And who, exactly, is saying that? The value the would-be parents put on it is obviously enormous. But that’s not the legal argument that’s being made - the argument is being made that it has inherent worth as a human being, the same argument made by anti-choice folks. And that argument is totally perverse.
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The worth and provenance of tissue samples can be complicated:
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(Thanks, @Nightflyer!)
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Right - a fertilized egg has more in common with a tumor than an actual person, as the value of tissue samples comes from those to which they’re connected.
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Oh, don’t think for a moment that these a-holes don’t want to have that option on the table…
Hang on! Who freezes fertilized eggs?
If they weren’t fertilized, then the holy magic of conception hadn’t taken place, and those weren’t embryos. (A side in a lawsuit using loaded language to overstate their case? Unpossible!)
The Wiki article doesn’t look the best, but even so:
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Pretty much all IVF clinics?
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According to the article, they freeze the egg, thaw it out, then fertilize it.
To prevent ice crystals, they dehydrate the cell before freezing. Trying that with a fertilized egg undergoing rapid cell division sounds like a much riskier process.
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