If Bloomberg wins the primary then it is time to take everything to the streets. The world as we know it is at stake. Vote Blue No Matter Who needs to come with lots of strings attached for the winner.
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According to the Stupidest Timeline, Bloomberg is the most electable, beating Trump by 6 points
( as opposed to Biden beating Trump by 5.6 points and Sanders beating Trump by 4.3 points )
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It’s not that the third-party ticket loses, it’s that it’s very likely to make the Democratic candidate (whoever that is) lose and Trump win. Voting third party in the US presidential election is kneecapping the main party you like better.
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Electable means winning elections. He hasn’t won any in this race yet.
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that’s my point though. if the choices are between two republican billionaires* then there is no party i like better.
in that scenario, it’d be interesting to see the viability of a third option. if it were anyone reasonable… i would**.
(* who knows how much trump actually holds, but self-styled billionaires anyway. )
(** i don’t live in a state where my vote matters so, voting for the not-a-billionare* ticket would be easy. that said, i suspect i might feel the same if i lived elsewhere. )
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Perhaps not different. There is a tremendous passion and anger in those who want black and brown people “in their place,” women controlled and LGBT people eliminated. It is an evil, immoral passion, but a passion nonetheless.
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i honestly don’t think that’s common parlance, except when used ironically: “jones had a passion for justice. served with a fist.” and that sort of silliness.
passion involves the heart, and often some amount of selflessness. both of which hate shuts down.
https://www.google.com/search?q=passion&tbm=nws
you could have a fervent member of patriot prayer, but it’s harder to imagine a passionate one.
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Because all we need are these primaries to be even more of a fucking circus. (Between Drudge and Daily Mail I’m not all all confident in the accuracy of this, but I wouldn’t put anything past Mikey at this point.)
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Oh, that’s good.
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He is still an abstraction for most people outside of NYC. An abstraction with 0 delegates to date.
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that one gets filed with the other “losing on purpose” hypotheses
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Trump is not a Republican. Bloomberg is not a Trumpist. There are 1000 reasons to oppose Bloomberg in the primaries, but he’s not a Trump except that they’re both entitled assholes with an infinitude of misplaced self-confidence. Policy under a Bloomie would be very different than it has been under the current monster.
For example:
Bloomberg: supports right to choose as a fundamental right for women
Trump: promises to appoint anti-choice judges
Bloomberg: apologized for the racist policy actions like stop and frisk
Trump: brags daily about racist policy decisions
Bloomberg: supports foreign policy collaboration with other nations
Trump: American exceptionalism for the win!
and so on.
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Of course he’s a Republican. But more importantly- the Republicans are Trumpists now. He first registered as Republican in 1987. He’s had 32 years being registered Republican.
Regan was registered as another party - he was a Republican.
Warren was registered as a different party when younger - she’s a Democrat.
Hilary the same.
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Technically you’re correct, and I know that that is the best form of correct. In this sense Bloomberg is a Democrat in the same sense that Trump is a Republican. Whatever one’s criteria, Trump and Bloomberg are not the same thing politically.
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ha! sorry, but that’s not at all credible.
he has a long record of espousing racist policies and a visibly racist mindset in his speeches. if he’s suddenly woke he needs to prove it. not with words, but with actions. he’s got money to spare and has lots of options to do so. he hasn’t.
and a long record of harrassing, possibly assaulting, women. don’t forget. 45 himself used to support the right to choose.
i think it’s safe to assume bloomberg would do nothing to stop states from the defacto outlawing of abortion. he can safely espouse his right to choose without actually doing anything to support it.
he might not be a trumpist, but everything i see about him is he will use the new norms trump has established to create some “bloomberg way.” ( rather than trying to actually restore, create norms that work for the people. )
i would vote third party. and i’d sincerely hope bernie or some other reasonable person would run as that third candidate
warren changed parties out of a deeply felt realization that capitalism has broken democracy with the republicans leading the charge. her core piece is money in politics and it’s corrupting influence. and she’s done a lot to prove it.
bloomberg is still bloomberg. it’s only the letter next to his name that has changed.
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Not quite the same. Republicans are Trumpists and their party is defined by him and his values.
Bloomberg changed parties again only a year ago & it would be hard to call Democrats Bloombergists. And not just the pronunciation.
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As a citizen of a state that always sends blue electors to the Electoral College no matter what, I understand your reasoning and often practice it myself, but openly advocating for voting third party in a public forum like this is just gonna trigger people and attract abuse
It’s basically volunteering to be the Dems’ scapegoat
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