2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

Obviously I don’t know a full history, and I know it has had a cycling level of prevalence through time. I mean more the modern amount of openly speaking about how we should burn human capital at both ends to enrich businesses and that it is the morally just thing to do. The modern version of it ain’t new by any means, I just don’t know where it came from either and is an affront to the ethics that was taught even in conservative areas at the time.

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I thought it came from Reagan, Thatcher and the Chicago School, no?

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Some have traced those traditions to Might is Right (1896), but there’s some debate over who wrote it or whether that work was actually satire. (19th century had trollies too it seems).

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I’d argue this is a particular modern variety of class relations… it should be addressed on those terms. I’m of a school of thought that emphasizes historical specificity, rather than a notion of “cycles” outside of human agency. History does not exist outside of human beings, it is defined by us and our collective, complex actions.

That’s just the conclusion I’ve arrived at after a decade of historical study. YMMV, of course.

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This … this is going to be a nightmare.

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There always is. Poe’s Law applies to everything.

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He should get Fauci on as his medical expert.

Seriously, Joe had some pretty good suggestions about the outbreak during the last debate, including using FEMA resources and making all Covid-related medical care immediately free (so that people wouldn’t be afraid to come in and get tested or treated).

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Well, if past performance is any indication, Donnie-Two-Bibles will fire Fauci from the task force soon anyway. So why not?

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This is what I suggested about a month ago. Where there’s a leadership vacuum in the White House, the Dem presidential candidates should step in and lead.

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Colin’s sentiments here are pretty much where I’m at right now regarding Biden and his campaign:


I don’t trust him or his team to win this thing. And even if he does, then what? We’re prolly in for 4 years of neoliberal kick-the-can-down-the-road policy that enacts surface-level progressive reforms which serve as a facade for pro-corporate and interventionist policies (just like the Obama administration) that leaves us wide open for another Trump-like figure to take office and really run the country into the ground in ways that Donnie & Co. could only imagine.

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Remember how many failures government had over the period of the 60s and 70s, everything from Johnson’s policy in Vietnam being revealed as the failure it was after Tet, to activists revealed Cointelpro spying under Nixon, then of course the downturn in the economy (stagflation), Watergate in Nixon’s second term, and finally the OPEC oil embargo

After which, the Republicans earned the votes of people disgusted by all of that by taking us into a neverending war in the Mideast, increasing domestic spying, destroying the economy, and engaging in a host of scandals.

But I’m sure it will be totally different next time.

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I’ve seen some responses to this from Biden supporters that are frankly appalling.

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That’s all? I guess it is a fox news poll…

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According to the article, that’s only 1 percentage point better than his lead in the same poll in February.

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WHAT A GREAT CANDIDATE, TRULY THE BEST AMERICA CAN DO

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Apparently…

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AIUI, Fox News polling is actually top-notch. Which is surprising, considering what a trainwreck Fox is generally.

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