The ironic thing is that in this case, the gains in the stock market aren’t really all due to Democrats… quite a lot comes from having the most pro-Wall Street president in decades, a guy who bases his success as much on the Dow as his approval rating. He’s shoveled billions into big businesses and has tried to take as much control of the Fed as possible. So for people whose litmus test for success is their 401k, Trump’s doing great. For anyone who isn’t straight, white, and rich, he’s a fucking monster.
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Joe isn’t angry about racism because he’s actually fine with it. Or at least, he’s fine with the people who perpetuate it.
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Literally everything anyone said was wrong with Hillary Clinton Joe Biden has a much more definitive example of how his policy would be worse. It’s frustrating that there are people that ever liked this guy.
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Agreed, but I don’t think that Trump (or, generally, any US president) can take credit for the stock market. Interesting discussion here:
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That was in 1985. Thirty-plus years ago.
I’m sure that if Biden actually is as racist as people in this thread keep claiming he is, I’m sure you can find examples from this century at least.
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
— Joe Biden, describing fellow candidate Barack Obama. The remark was made the same day Biden filed the official paperwork to launch his presidential campaign
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If we’re being charitable, Joe Biden isn’t racist, he just doesn’t understand why it’s a problem to have good, friendly working relationships with racists who are in power, and why it’s a problem to speak positively of their role in government.
But if decades of casual racism isn’t your bag, how about some casual misogyny (with bonus creepy hands) from yesterday?
And if you don’t think that sort of thing leaves a lasting negative impression, I encourage you to check out this thread:
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Joe Biden didn’t just buddy up to segregationists in the 70s through the 00s, Biden entered into the Senate on the promise to maintain school segregation. His history is pretty damn important.
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It’s Greenpeace, so take it for what you will, but in a list of 21 candidates, 2 of which are Republicans, Biden is 18th. In a lot of ways that genuinely matter to the survival of our nation and the entire freaking planet, he’s “better than Trump” in the same way that a stab wound is “better” than a gunshot.
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Whoever suggested to Warren that going on The Breakfast Club is a good idea probably got fired today
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Why? She has to face the questioning, and conservative asshole will literally use anything ever to say whatever. It proves why you go do an interview for a PoC instead of a Fox News townhall though.
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She did OK. Unfortunately, for all her policy stands, this (her claims, not the interview) is probably what she will be best known for during the election.
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If you’re implying that we’d be in a better position now if more people had voted for Jill Stein in the general election then I’m gonna have to respectfully disagree.
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I get the complaints about corporate middle of the road Democrats, but I find the idea that they are the same to be insane at this point. Both Sides
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And in most cases the most effective way to oust corporate-owned Democrats isn’t refusing to vote for either of the major parties, it’s challenging them in the primaries like AOC did.
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I also believe there’s a vast spectrum of ideals and levels of “being bought” within a so-called ‘corporate owned party’ like the Democrats. There’s centrists, there’s conservatives, there’s former Independents, and there’s Democratic Socialists. Not all have sold out to lobbyists. And honestly, right now is an incredibly bad time to suggest that Democrats should defect to the Greens or Independents or Libertarians.
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I still go back and forth… I’ve thought about getting involved in the local democratic party (volunteering, going to meetings, etc), in the hopes of pulling the party left. The question is, for me at least, how effective is that or would that be, given that the democratic party has a long, deep history, and a well entrenched bureaucracy. I don’t know the answer to that question. There is a longer history of third parties rising up, and eventually being absorbed by the major parties, and shifting policy that way.
There are no easy answers here, I don’t think. Working from the inside and the outside have pros and cons, I think.
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