Considering who the president is, perhaps more than VP (see @alynhall’s link above about half of democrats nothing thinking Biden will make it four years - 2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1) - #5191 by KathyPartdeux)
I’d hoped for Stacey Abrams, who would’ve drawn much more of the Left vote… but I knew it was a long shot at best.
I’ll still be voting for Biden, because trump has got to go… but yeah, this isn’t the most inspiring pick he could have made.
I look forward to Stacey’s involvement in the coming years. She will accomplish good things.
The turnout they’re talking about are the same African-American voters that Biden is already good at bringing out: religious, older, local blocs via relatively privileged community members (preachers, celebs, local reps). What they needed in this regard was an inspiring politician like Obama who could bring out Black people who usually don’t bother voting. Harris isn’t very hopey-and-changey.
Still, you’re correct about the historic nature of the choice, so perhaps that will count for something.
She’s a smart, ambitious person with some policy positions I disagree strongly with and with a proven ability to win elections–which is basically about the best anybody can hope for in a politician.
It’ll be interesting to see how the opposition tries to use the haymaker she landed on Biden during the debate.
I hope you are right, more than anything.
I’ve already had my concerns misinterpreted as being divisive by someone else today, I know you won’t do that but I won’t say any more.
Not my opinions - I haven’t had time to digest yet.
Good profile/introduction to a tough and promising candidate. We need a lot more like her.
I’m not sure Pence has emotions, tho.
Something about Mike Pence tells me there are a lot of emotions ready to come up if Pence feels ridiculed by a woman.
I don’t think we’ll survive 4 more years of Trump, so I’ll hold my nose and vote for Biden/Harris. I know that makes me a hypocrite, not a real progressive/leftists/etc, but I’d rather have a country that we can possibly right than what will happen with 4 more years of an actual fascist in power that could conceivably end any hope of an electoral fix.
I suspect there is a shit ton of people feeling the same as me, too.
Seconded. Not a great feeling but perfect is the enemy of good etc…
Yeah. Lucky me, I live in solidly blue state, so I don’t feel that “Oh well, have to vote for them” thing.
I live in a possibly purple state, and I’m not happy either. But I’m not sure what else I’m supposed to be doing here to fix all this?
Biden has (appeared) to move left over the course of the campaign, apparently in response to pressure from the left of his base. At the very least, we can have influence in this admin. We have none in a repub admin. For now, I will take that. We just need to keep pushing leftward, and shift the Overton window back to something resembling the actual public.