2020 Election Thread (formerly: 2020 Presidential Candidates Thread) (Part 1)

Also, Hillary Clinton on Wednesday. Not a prominent spot, fortunately, but it would be better if she graciously declined and stayed off-camera instead of reminding everyone of her and the DNC’s incompetence and failure last time round.

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I’m sure there are quite a few people who voted for her who want to hear from her.

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Yeah, but on balance her appearing on the (virtual) podium will do more damage than good.

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She’s not Trump in 2024. She’s the former nominee who got a majority of the vote and the first major party woman candidate- people need to get over their Hilary Hate already.

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It’s not Hillary Hate to point out that she was another incompetent Third Way Dem candidate who managed to pull defeat from the jaws of victory. Despite his good work on environmental issues since 2000, I don’t particularly want to see Al Gore on that stage again, either.

Anyhow, she’s been given a less-than-prominent spot and it’s not a normal convention, so I’m hoping that the speech will go mostly unnoticed while more dynamic, effective, and forward-looking speakers get the spotlight.

[to be clear, I’m not trying to take things off-topic by re-litigating 2016. I’m looking at the cost-benefit effects of putting a complacent and smug neoliberal-lite establishment bungler on stage during this election cycle]

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Yup. The most frothingly anti-Hillary folks are either unreachable MAGAts or quietly realize they should have voted for her in 2016 by now.

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It’s a pointless discussion as the candidate thinks she brings voters and she is speaking.

I would suggest that women see misogyny in attitudes towards her as a losing candidate vs previous candidates.

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Wednesday:

  • Former President Barack Obama
  • Joe Biden’s yet-to-be-announced vice presidential candidate

Thursday:

  • Former Vice President Joe Biden accepts the Democratic nomination
  • Members of the Biden family
  • Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)

Have we narrowed the field by one, or is that just something that will be shifted around if she gets it? Good lineup overall.

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Misogyny definitely plays a part with a lot of people, including so-called progressives. For me it’s more about the DNC getting over its addiction to featuring politicians who lost to manifestly unfit opponents, which is why I also wasn’t particularly thrilled to see those two cold fish given speaking at the 2004 and 2008 conventions.

They’ve made it clear that the spots reserved for Harris and others under consideration for VP are placeholders.

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I’m not even going to watch everyday. I doubt most people will want to tune into four more days of webinars.

And the balloon drop will just look sad in Biden’s rec room.

It’s a different world.

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Uncle Joe should really break out a kazoo when the official announcement is made.

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When the going gets tough, the tough get racist, I guess.

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Kamala is veep pick.

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Great, announce you’re making a cop hard-ass prosecutor whose only defense for her history of petty civil rights crack-downs is “I had to if I was ever going to get to run for president” your running mate in the middle of a massive anti-cop social justice protest movement.

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Are we sure Biden isn’t the illiterate one? Because he seems to be completely incapable of reading a room…

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Oh, Donnie.

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Kamala Harris, an empty suit reputation from almost anyone you ask in DC.

But hey, VOTE!

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Ugh, yeah. Surprise surprise.

So, I wonder what we’re going to be told about the reasoning for this shitty, predictable pick?

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The choice of Harris also reads to me like a middle finger to those amassed to the left of Biden.

So depressing.

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I’m not inspired, but I do genuinely look forward to Mike Pence losing it and exploding in a string of racist, misogynist slurs during the VP debate.

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Well the coverage from Rev Al & Joy Reid & Jim Clyburn is ecstatic in praise of the choice and the enthusiasm and turnout expected in the Black community.

Much talk about the first Black veep candidate- first South Asian- first HBCU grad.

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