Or - as noted in the meme - everyone knew that Republicans would call any democratic candidate a communist.
Didn’t matter if it was Castro, Warren, Buttigieg, O’Rourke, Swallwell - any Dem.
Everyone knew that. Everyone said it - over and over. There’s not a single person sitting shocked and speechless about this.
certainly it comes as no surprise to me that multiple relatives of mine who get their news from fox and breitbart and drudge have posted memes of biden in front of a burning building saying “i approve this riot” despite his numerous explicit disavowals of rioting and looting.
>sigh<
Such people exist. But I really doubt most people who support Sanders are holding this stance.
I can entirely understand how they feel. Much of Biden’s appeal is based on “going back to normal,” re-establishing the pre-Trump status quo. This is repugnant to those of us who feel sweeping changes are desperately needed to combat poverty, lack of health care, and climate change.
But. If Biden loses, Trump will accelerate this country’s slide into fascism, kleptocracy, and destruction. Orange Hitler is already dismantling the government and openly sabotaging the election process. If this continues for another four years, I don’t believe there will be anything remotely resembling honest elections in 2024. It has to stop now, and that means voting Biden, no matter how distasteful that might be. I can only speak for myself on this one, but based on what I’ve seen online, I think many Sanders supporters feel the same.
And while such an article may be newsworthy, I can’t help but wonder why the Guardian feels it needs to amplify what’s likely a tiny segment of the voting public. Those of us who voted for Sanders in the primary have spent the last four years being blamed for Trump’s election, even though the vast majority of us did vote for Clinton. I, for one, am tired of being unfairly treated as a scapegoat.
(Please note, I’m not throwing any shade at @anon61221983 for posting it; I’m just annoyed as hell by that article, even if it does highlight Biden’s failure to court the Progressive vote. 
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As George said just yesterday:
The house is on fire - put it out - we can talk about a solar roof and other improvements when we save the structure.
Yeah, I’m inclined to agree. I get that he’s not perfect, but I’m on board with the idea that we need to vote for the least worst option right and push from the left. It’s only a problem if you consider voting to be the only democratic engagement that we need to be practicing right now. I think too many of us (myself included) have not been as proactive in our civic engagement as we need to be. Many of us have been active of course, but more of us need to be more engaged and pushing back against the right wing, nationalistic, bigoted agenda on all fronts (not just those that dovetail with our own specific set of interests, however that’s defined).
@KathyPartdeux and @anon61221983: I agree completely. 
As ever, let’s remember the facts
15 percent of Clinton supporters voted McCain, 12 percent of Bernie supporters voted Trump
As with so much else: the GOP base are going to go into the election thinking that the Dems are police abolitionists, no matter how much bootlicking Biden does.
So that bootlicking doesn’t actually gain the Dems any support; all it does is drive away abolitionists.
See also socdem welfare programs, abolishing ICE, etc etc.
If they’re gonna accuse you of being radical leftists no matter what you do, you may as well lean into it and actually do it.
the candidate to do that was sanders, binden’s going to biden. i have little doubt he does indeed support the police, and feels some small reforms will make everyone happy enough to let him focus on other things
we’ll see. the fact that so many people are keeping the focus of black lives changes on their local city councils and police - and not getting distracted by the trump family circus… it bodes well
but first, biden has to become president and ideally the democrats would increase their presence in the senate too. they can be persuaded, the republicans cannot.
the candidate to do that was sanders, binden’s going to biden.
Yes, I think one thing to consider is Democrats aren’t always holding back for fence-sitters. I really don’t think Biden is any further left than is advertised. He has very little in common ideologically with most protestors, and I don’t think winning will goad him any more Leftward than the long-entrenched “diplomatic” Democrats in Congress.
Of course not. He’s a lot further right than advertised (sorry, I’ve gathered I shouldn’t be saying such things here at bbs).
Agreed, I have learned the same… 
This is true, but the point is that he is movable with pressure. The reuplicans are not. It is reasonable to hope that his administation will include progressive voices. The republicans will not. And most importantly, it is reasonable to expect that Biden will not actively seek to end democratic elections and norms in our country. Republicans will, and are. Perfect? Hell no. Best we’ve currently got? Yup.
Thank you for telling me what I’ve heard dozens of times already by now. 
I don’t see a problem with keeping in mind as we move toward November just how Jerry rigged by the wealthy elite this whole neoliberal shitshow is, and how that works. But doing that usually sours the consensus cornflakes around here, so as I said, I mostly keep it to myself. Or else shuttle it off to the approved radical speech area, “Commie Memes.”
I guess one could compare the 1992 & 1996 and the 2020 platforms to see if positions can change.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/1992-democratic-party-platform
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/1996-democratic-party-platform
The '92 and '96 are just… wow.
They still had nothing on this:
Edit: in case anyone wants to waste time actually reading it:
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/docs/Resolution_Platform_2020.pdf
Not at all. Voting is not going to change anything at all, if afterwards we just go home and wait until the next election. Pressure is the key word in my statement. He, and the mainstream dems as a whole, will not budge unless they are forced to. The election is only the very first step in a long ass path back to sanity. But it is a first step.
