Agree to disagree.
You live your life by whatever wisdom you want to.
Enjoy your day.
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Re: 911 is a joke, I saw a meme or a retweet or what ever kids are calling it these days:
“White people call the police like they are calling customer service.”
It’s an extremely perceptive statement.
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Yeah, I was trying to avoid various rabbit holes in a vain attempt at brevity but you’re right, the kind of just civilisation I was talking about is more aspiration than reality for some folks. Still, we can at least be on the same page about the aspiration. Whether we’re talking about cops killing brown people at will or “trolls” inciting mass murder, it feels like we ought to at least be able to agree that these things are wrong in principle. As opposed to this, y’know, “let’s wait and see whether murder is wrong, it’s an open question and both sides have very valid points of view”.
I wonder how that little prick Milo would feel if a bunch of people started suggesting the same thing about him. Hey, it’s just a joke, right???
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It’s Day of the Rope and the phrase comes from that old right wing terror bible The Turner Diaries. If you look for night of the rope you mostly get some bad hardcore lyrics.
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True, I discovered the latter. I mostly just wanted to pass along a pertinent thought from someone on that side of things.
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That’s how the police are supposed to work. They are civil servants, that means you are their boss and customer.
Of course they should also tell you to pound sand if you’re calling just because there is a black guy minding his own business around your house.
The reality isn’t as simple, but in principle you should be able to call the cops when you are witnessing a potential crime in progress without fear.
You’re technically right. But I think that statement is encouraging one to flip this statement over and examine, “Well, how to other people treat calling the police?”
Because unfortunately, even though they are supposed to be our servants, they are often times become our oppressors. So me calling the cops I don’t really give a thought that the script might be flipped and I become the one who is suddenly being policed. But that happens more often with minorities, and you can find many examples on the news where the one who called the cops is now the one arrested.
Though it is fair to say this happens to white people on occasion as well, usually the poor. There is a common saying, “Never invite the man into your life.”
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That’s my point though. The antagonistic relationship with law enforcement is the root of the issue. They are supposed to be there to help you, if you don’t want to call because you think they’re going to make the situation worse than that’s a fundamental problem with the system.
This is a huge problem with illegal immigrant communities, who feel pressured to not call the cops for fear of deportation. This leads to exploitation and violence since they can’t use the system to resolve disputes and have to take matters into their own hands.
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Related to that point: these days, the radical left are not calling for the reform of police and prisons. They’re calling for their abolition.
(longish read, but well written)
Or for a proper introduction to the idea, see The End of Policing | Verso Books
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PS I see Jon Stewart just said the sort of thing I was getting at, but more succinctly (right at the end):
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Yeah. This is a reminder of his many mass shooters have prior charges of gender based violence.
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Thread. It’s not one or the other, it’s both.
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