Well mostly because pitchforks would be too nice.
I have only passingly paid attention to him and thought his publishing his own shows at $5 was great…but another one to put in the pile of done with it in my lifetime anyway.
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Actually, I have a lot of sympathy for anarchism, especially anarcho-syndicalism, but I don’t regard it as feasible. And like most labels, I consider applying them to individuals to be simplistic to the point of category errors. For example, having progressive political inclinations doesn’t make me a progressive because that means too many things to too many people and there are even things I consider progressive things I don’t support. Political labels are so superficial that it’s more useful to talk brass tacks. -isms really don’t tell you much of anything about someone, IMHO.
I have in fact a very detailed process of self-betterment from which spring my sense of right and wrong. I’d be happy to discuss morality in another thread, and one or more probably already exists. But discussing it further here would be to derail from the topic at hand.
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I’m constantly reminded of Ripley’s comment in Aliens “you know Burke, I don’t know which species is worse. You don’t see them fucking each other over for a profit margin.”
Regardless of race, creed, gender, religion, sexuality, or economic status…I’m just tired of human beings screwing one another over.
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I don’t get it. Why isn’t it enough to be the guy that’s funny in all those internet video clips, to have a successful career, and shows, tv, &c.?
Why be one of those people? “Whee! I’m a success! I get to behave like a total monster!”
I don’t get the appeal.
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I think the argument could be made he people like that are that way regardless of the success. And the success only enhances it or emboldens them.
Edit: I fairly recently dealt with someone who turned out to be a manipulative narcissistic compulsive liar. I asked the question over and over again “why would they lie to me about those things?!? Why did they treat me that way?!” The answer given to me was “you wil never understand it. Because you are not someone who would do that and are incapable of such behavior. So it will never make sense.
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Power corrupts.
Anywhere that you find inequalities of power, you will find abuse. The greater the inequality, the greater the abuse.
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From Gawker: May 15, 2015.
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That this is the way they always were? That makes sense, I guess.
When you find someone funny, it’s like they’re on the same wavelength, or speaking the same language. Like you have something in common with them.
Then you find out, oh, like, they were Woody Allen all along.
Everything they did becomes tainted.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Thanks for that, I was wondering about the Gawker reference in the original post.
Louis C. K.'s performances have always seemed (to me) to be coming from a very dark place of self-hatred. I’ve never really understood the appeal.
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In the last several decades, comedy has completely moved into the “humor” of self-destructive behavior known as “cringe comedy”. Life is tough enough, this has no appeal to me whatsoever.
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I saw a trailer for his film yesterday-and though I’d heard nothing about any allegations against him, my visceral response was, “oh, hell no!”. Wrong movie, wrong moment. Even if he was somehow cleared of any wrong doing, I think I’d rather watch a revival of The Day the Clown Cried.
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Just thinking the same – both him and Kevin Spacey are great artists and it is just a shame we get to know they have (or could have) such a dark side. Very disappointing.
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I like his work, whether it’s his standup or projects like “Horace and Pete”, and I’ve liked the public stands he’s taken on social issues. But I’ve also heard the rumours for years and while I chose to believe the women I also gave him the benefit of the doubt, downplaying the alleged actions as those of a clearly damaged individual who used his inner darkness to drive his art; there’s no excuse for that, whatever goodwill he had earned from me.
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I think for some, they can separate the work from the person. It depends of course on how they’ve built their fame, and how much of it relies on a cult of personality instead of the quality of their work.
NPR had a good piece a while back mulling this over which looked at the story of some classical composer who was a noted womanizer, drunk, cheat, thief and anti-semite, but whose work was so beautiful it still enjoyed appreciation during his life and after.
Obviously for others, this all is going to ruin CK and Spacey for them. I wouldn’t begrudge people either take, nor assume it stood for their own views on the matter.
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It hurts to see the noir we suspected was always there. It’s exposing the wounds, cutting out the infection that just… ouch.
I feel like we are in a movie David Lynch dreamt up just after making Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet, and Paul Verhoeven added his touches by making a has-been celebrity the president. I want to just walk off stage now.
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I’m so depressed, I feel like Darren Aronofsky must be in the mix too.
This definitely puts that SNL monologue he did about child molestors from a few years ago in a whole new light (at 5:30)
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