Well, maybe what theyâre really saying is âwhy pretend this isnât an accurate representation of how this country was founded?â
In other words, they have offered to be Americaâs badge of shame, instead of burying their heads in the sand.
One could hope, anyway.
That is a positive and lovely way to think of it.
This is a joke, right?
White privilege you know. We need to be reminded that we stole this land from others in the name of Jesus!!
Maybe the next vote, now that the logo will be kept, should be on whether it should be altered. It could be changed to look more like wrestling. And less like strangling.
next vote: change the town name to DoucheVill
Iâm hoping Banksy will show up and change the sign so one guy is a clown and the other guy is an alien.
Or maybe Hulk Hogan vs. Iron Sheik.
I still say itâs a crap drawing, but really I donât find this offensive once you know the context. And like I said before, the story behind it showed how there were a lot of examples of settlers and Native Americans living near each other and respecting each other.
Also - it isnât âracistâ. Man that word gets thrown around so much it is no wonder people have become numb to it.
I had no idea Parks & Recreation were that close to realityâŚ
So would you have voted to change it or keep it? Knowing that it even at the best looks like a white guy beating a Native American and is definitely controversial?
Also, kind of ugly.
Iâm thinking it takes a slightly special mindset to say âno, we must keep it because this specific image is more important to me than making it something elseâ
It looks racist and thatâs close enough, we donât need so stinkinâ facts or context. Whereâs my pitchfork?
Seals and arms and flags are often described in words, and then rendered by an artist who interprets the words. If seal of Whitesboro is described as depicting a sort of wrestling, then a better artist can be commissioned to make that clear.
But why would somebody insist on âWhite guy defeating a Native Americanâ seal? Or even âWhite guy wrestling oneâ?
SUPER CREEPY unless theyâre including the other three village people.
I think youâll find that given enough motive, the concept of context can be described as a sort of hegemonic privilege,
It is nice so many white guys are here to explain the seal isnât racist. I donât suppose anybody has asked an Indian?
a colorful event in local Whitesboro history, memorialized on the seal. Local history is full of such anecdotes.
Why would you assume that?
Youâre not really answering the question. Just because thereâs local history of a guy getting caught i an incriminating position with his horse doesnât mean it should be on the seal. Should it be okay for a southern town to have slave beatings on their seal? Is that the ONLY thing they can have on their seal? Is it super-important to their local culture and are local Native Americans in support of it?
The question isnât âhow can you rationalize it?â. The question is âwhy cling to it when there are obviously good reasons not to do so?â
As I said in the other thread, I would either get an artist to make a much better, historically accurate drawing that looks like wrestling, or alter it to maybe a post match hand/arm clasp âgood matchâ sort of imagery.
Though if you look at old state seals, many were drawn by people with little artistic talentâŚ
Whatâs Rob Leifeld doing?
