80 percent of Americans agree they disagree

[jlw]

Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2018/10/25/80-percent-of-americans-agree.html

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[HMSGoose]

@jlw

while 40 percent of Americans approve.

Are there polls out there that try to parse the fraction of Americans who just think it’s rude and unpatriotic, or somehow damaging to national security to admit you disapprove of the sitting president, regardless of party affiliation or personality?

[LadyBrains]

I disagree.

[teknocholer]

@LadyBrains

I disagree.

Agreed.

[anotherone]

Let’s just drop the pretense and admit what’s actually happening. 40% of Americans are racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, nationalists and the other 60% hate them for it.

[Pensketch]

What I disagree with is that that many of us actually agree.

[generic_name]

[davide405]

I read this somewhere recently on the intertubes, and maybe it explains the divisiveness, or just part of it.

If a thing came into the world before you were 15 years old, it’s not even remarkable, it’s just the way the world is.

If a thing came into the world between the time you were 15 and 35, it’s new and exciting. You might end up earning your living in some way related to that thing.

If a thing comes into the world after you are 35, it’s confusing. You’re probably skeptical about it.

If a thing comes into the world after you’re 55, it’s some combination of dangerous, disgusting, depraved, or demonic. It ought to be illegal. Anybody who likes, or even refuses to outright reject the thing is not just wrong or misinformed. They are stupid, ugly and evil besides.

Paraphrased and embellished.

Not true for any specific person, but predictive for large groups.

YMMV

[walkensyndrome]

Agreed. I don’t agree that we disagree either.

[anon81034786]

@LadyBrains

I disagree.

@teknocholer

Agreed.

[YetiLives]

Its frightening to think 4 of 10 Amerikans support this bloviated jack ass of a child. How do you deal with supposed adults who wear shirts saying ‘Fuck your feelings’ with big ol’ candy ass grins on their faces? Then, I look at my immediate family. I just can’t get my head around it.

[HMSGoose]

trying to find an answer to my original question above, I took a side-trip trough a couple 538 posts about approval ratings. George W. Bush had a disapproval rating of just 10% after his first year one of the lowest in modern history, only behind JFK. That tells me that these numbers cannot possibly be saying what we think they’re saying.

[Boundegar]

You were right up to 35, but I’m skeptical about that last part.

[Dioptase1]

No, we’re in quantum superposition. Each American has a 40% chance of being prejudice and 60% chance of hating themselves. Until Thanksgiving, when the wave collapses and it all comes out.

[NickyG]

@anotherone

and the other 60% hate them for it.

I can’t stand them. Hate is a tad strong, All is One after all, including those idjits.

[L0ki]

The first three of those are Douglas Adams.

A quote from The Salmon of Doubt

I don’t know which misanthrope came up with the last one but they don’t appear to know many people over 55.

[Wanderfound]

@anotherone

Let’s just drop the pretense and admit what’s actually happening. 40% of Americans are racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, nationalists and the other 60% hate them for it.

To complicate that a bit:

• That 40/60 split describes the voters, not the people. Thanks to America’s Americaness, voters and non-voters are very different groups. A consequence of this is that there are probably less Trumpists than you might imagine.

• Regrettably, racism/misogyny/classism/imperialism/etc are not exclusive to the GOP. Pretty much all of the major problems are, to at least some degree, bipartisan.

[davide405]

Thank you very much for identifying that source! I hadn’t a clue. Now, at least, I can properly attribute it.

As to the thing about people over 55…

Have you met any older Republicans lately?

[L0ki]

@davide405

Have you met any older Republicans lately?

Thankfully no.