9/11 Truthers still not done

Nah.

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Well, it’s not very elite, but it’s probably more expensive than The Bohemian Grove.

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People misplacing the centre of authority concerning scientific concepts? Yeah, sounds nothing like it. :neutral_face:

Well, there is the “family” drama (family being a huge number of people - 15,000, but I think only around 2000 are involved in state politics) and then there is the political stuff. It’s a bureaucracy with family, I guess.

As far as I know the Sauds are Arabs, who’ve been around the Arabian peninsula since the 15th century? Their alliance with the founder of the Wahhab sect was rather political in the 18th century. He couldn’t stand all the saint worship going on around the region, and by aligning with the Sauds in the 18th and eventually becoming a throne in the side of the Ottomans. The conflict with the current Jordanian ruling family was the struggle over the holy cities. The Hashemites basically ruled the cities since the 10th century, so this was a big shift. But I think the Sauds had western backing even then.

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Yep, that port has been and continues to be incredibly important.

From what I understand, the situation there is incredibly bad. The Saudis aren’t helping.

Sorry man, I’m totes skint. Anybody else wants to join the conspiracy and I’m afraid we’d just have to come clean. Or, like the early Church Fathers, just deny that the secret Gospels ever existed.

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Some day we are gonna have to talk about something a touch nicer (if still divisive) like the History of Fashion. Or the history of calligraphy.

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That’d be applied conspiracy theory then, right?

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Sitting here in Melbourne, Australia (well, at least I have been told that I live in a place called that), I have no proof one way or another that 9/11 happened they way it is described.

In fact, I have no proof that anything happened at all. It might be all a media created myth. In fact, I have no proof that Iraq, Afghanistan, or even the USA actually exist! It’s all just stories on the TV. YOU people are all just text on a website, created by… who? Jesus.

Who is doing this to me? Why do you want me to read all this nonsense? What are your plans? Why do you want me to get all worked up about this fictional Donald Trump character?

I think my brain is being conditioned for some Great Violent Plan. And I am cool with that. It might be fun.

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The film also documents insider trading, electronic fraud, missing money and destroyed evidence. I would like to hear your thoughts on those issues.

Like with the long debunked insurance scam claim, “accuses” is not the same as “documents.”

The fashion industry? Nicer?

*walking away, shaking my head

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I think that you might be onto something…

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It seems to me that the only sad truths here are that GW Bush & Co could have done more to prevent the events of 9/11 from occurring and chose not to (possibly intentionally, possibly not). I definitely don’t think there was any grand conspiracy.

Complacency, yes. Conspiracy, no.

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“Troofer,” what a great word!

Calling people “troofers” insinuates that the persons thus labeled can’t talk right. Maybe there is something wrong with their mouths, like their tongues have been cut out? No no no, that’s not it, there’s something wrong with their brains. Their heads are so messed up that they cannot pronounce the word “truth” properly! Ha!

It’s such a compact information delivery system. It’s like calling low-status men in prison “bitches.” Calling a fellow prisoner a “bitch” not only illustrates what you think of low-status men in prison, it simultaneously illustrates what you think of women! All in just one syllable!

In the same way, calling someone a “troofer” tells us both what you think of critics of the official story, and also what you think of developmentally disabled people.

Hilarious!

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276 posts, and if Discourse Search is working, not one mention of “Snowden.”

If 9/11 were an inside-job or a false-flag job, why would we expect it to be a well-kept secret for 15 years? Surely Snowden, or someone similarly positioned, would have leaked the truth.

The US security complex is evil, and persistent, and well-funded, but they are not infallible. No security apparatus is.

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As I recall the US backed the Sauds and the UK backed the Hashemites.
After loosing and the first nakba of Syria Palestina being given to the UK but the French given a separate mandate to govern Syria the British hacked 3/4(east bank/AKA Jordan) out of the League of Nations management mandate for Palestine as a retreat for for the Hashemites, the throne for Iraq was also given and lost to Hashemites.

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Nice thought, but something that compromising would have been compartmentalized, the Snowmen and Manning leaks were of stuff available to a normal to high level user in the agency computer networks. Let us say that the USS Maine was possibly sabotage, 110 years and we still do not know for sure, secrets can sometimes be kept by a number of people who have both an interest and a joint fear of discovery. Nixon only got burned because not everyone involved had an interest in keeping him in office, a Cheney vetted conspiracy probably would not have a non Kool AId drinker inside the fold. That is not to say that they ever accomplished anything other than a >1T war based on bunk evidence undermining the already fucked map of the middle east or whatever.

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Now that my friends was one of the great conspiracies, freaking Bohemian grave is where the federal reserve act was written by the bankers who would benefit from making their cartel the managers of the official bank of the US, the only real concession is the acceptance of top level positions getting a rubber stamp in a political appointment process. It is the classic WASP country club conspiracy over drinks and no minorities or women except as the help.

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There is something very wrong with you and it has nothing to do with the conditions of your birth.