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if you agree with the dogma you are allowed to speak if not you are disregarded.
try for once value idea by their own merit not by who said it. that would be truly unbiased. Even the most hateful and evil people can have good ideas.
i apologize for every offense i brought to the hateful and evil.
letâs just keep this simple: a whole lot of men angry at their diminished economic prospects need a punching bag. rather than rail against the right wing politicians that have worked since the 80âs to put them in that position- these MRM adherents lash out at women- women working jobs, women who decline to partner with them, et all. Libertarian men and MRMs are the useful idiot tools of the corporatists.
That is what i said by education, which is the tool for learning. And we realized soon enough that we donât want political classes in schools for good reasons. We want to teach people how to think not what to think. This is the difference between learning and indoctrination. that is also why we are trying to use scientific arguments and not political ones.
allot of word salad in the comments. This Redpill movement is just a bunch of lost souls thinking their lives are more important than it really is in this current socioeconomic system. We all want to be important and watched. Libertarians and MRMs are really angry lost souls using women as a punching bad for their diminished economic prospects. They refuse to hold the real perpetrators accountable.
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It might help your case for âscientificâ reasoning if you knew the difference between the economic theory of Marxism, and the totalitarian regimes that have claimed to implement it. Plus, thereâs that pseudo-science of âbrainwashing.â Thatâs about as scientific as homeopathy and the anti-vaxxer movement.
âŚSeriously? Thatâs your reply? Posts like this are why the Redpill Right has any traction in the first place.
The real problem is that none of them have thought through the consequences far enough to realize that their conception of absolute property rights is, completely aside from whether or not it would be desirable, literally fundamentally impossible. My right to have my property not be polluted is inevitably going to come into conflict with someone elseâs right to do whatever they want on their property, so any system is going to involve society making decisions about where to draw the line between one personâs property rights and anotherâs, and anyone pretending that this is not the case is either disingenuous or not capable of thinking anything through at all.
So, disregard context? Scientifically speaking, youâd end up with completely useless data.
Thatâs an important insight. I think those are what economists call externalities.
I know it better than you might think, giving the fact that i am from a country that was ruled by communists for over 40 years. And this people talking about feminism today are using the same rhetoric that those people wore using in my country. I just have to replace âCapitalistic Imperialismâ with âPatriarchyâ and âWestern Decadent Cultureâ with âRape Cultureâ and the fact that we need a new type of human being made thru education and political indoctrination in schools, from a young age. I wasnât for a moment talking about economic marxism.
ok fair point. I donât want my children being politically indoctrinated from a young age by the likes of those that want to blame all problems of the world on one gender of a particular race* and believe in a hypothetical social system in which the father or a male elder has absolute authority over the family group; by extension, one or more men (as in a council) exert absolute authority over the community as a whole - which is the definition of patriarchy.
*genetically speaking, there are no races in humans - race this is a social construct and we should abolish it. Actually we are all the same no mater the colour or the shape of our eyes.
milliefink:Plenty of white men make good and appreciated contributions to various battles for equality. Theyâre the ones who are not disregarded, because they have useful things to say, and they usually manage to say useful things because theyâve also managed to acquire some accurate self-awareness.
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if you agree with the dogma you are allowed to speak if not you are disregarded.
What part of âdisregardedâ did you hear as ânot allowed to speakâ? Who the hell is preventing white men from even speaking? Jesus, theyâre pretty much speaking everywhere, constantly. And of course, as you just demonstrated, so many of them are simply not listening. Your appropriation of the mantle of victimhood is a bad look, dude. It makes you just plain silly.
try for once value idea by their own merit not by who said it.
Again, youâre demonstrating an absolute refusal to hear what I wrote, right in what you quoted from me! Which leaves me no reason to repeat it.
i apologize for every offense i brought to the hateful and evil.
Oh bullshit. Youâre not apologizing for anything.
Pffft! Youâre hilarious.
As if that person would have listened to one damn serious thing I actually have to say.
They might have. Replies like that just reinforce the sense that theyâre being condescended to, or treated as less than human, and Iâm inclined in this specific instance to agree. Empathizing (which doesnât mean you drop everything to bend over backwards for them) is hard work, and dropping sick burns is a lot of fun.
Rather than posting a sarcastic gif, hereâs a picture of an owl,which I hope you like (courtesy Kottke):
Stalin also identified as left leaning. It can mean a lot of things.
In this case the redpill right are a group of people who are trying desperately to cling to values FROM THE PAST as regards the role of women, minorities, class, etcâŚ
Conservative in this case needs to not be willfully confused with republican. nor with libertatian. It is, rather, SOCIALLY conservative, where rights are not equally shared, and playing fields tipped in favor of the powerful., That is the sense of âconservationâ being implied by the phrase âredpill rightâ
And you bloody well know it.
I hope my bona fides are known enough that I donât have to explicate them here, but I do curse JFK for doing in the common wearing of menâs hats.
u are not reading either. What part of âdisregardedâ did you hear as ânot allowed to speakâ?
from what u said i understand that *White men who make good and appreciated contributions to various battles for equality, theyâve also managed to acquire some accurate self-awareness are the ones not disregarded. which means, for me, those who adhere to the dogma.
of course not.
If youâre hear to basically plead the case of the Redpill Right, I donât believe a word of your call for civility and understanding. Thereâs just no way that you talk about people like the ones youâre talking to here in this respectful, supposedly conciliatory way. That would involve actually trying to understand what others like me are trying to say.
I see what youâre doing; youâre trying to claim that you and your kind are the real victims. I highly doubt youâre fooling anyone.
Just pretend Genetic Theory is a hoax science.
