A supremely weird book: 'Dating Vegans'

[shaddack]

Unless you stop growing them. Then, because they are so overbred that they are unlikely to survive in nature, they… well… won’t survive. Same for other species and subspecies.

Meat is murder.
Veganism is genocide.

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@shaddack

Frogs are a renewable resource

Frog populations are in decline. Vegans are to blame.

Decline in amphibian populations

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@girard

The best bit is that his link about how vegans kill so many animals with their rice eating habits hinges on this paragraph:

The culprit is eggs. While you only need to kill one single steer to get about 450 pounds (405,000 calories) worth of meat, you’d need to kill about 20 chickens to get enough eggs to match that number of calories. So if you’re a vegetarian who eats a lot of omelets, you’re likely responsible for more animal deaths than someone who chows down on burgers and steaks but doesn’t like eggs.

So, he’s talking about some rare breed of vegan that eats an egg-heavy diet.

The BEST bit is that you ignored all this!

@aaarrrrrggggg

In 2001, S. L. Davis of the Department of Animal Sciences at Oregon State University, Corvallis, wrote a paper claiming that the diet most likely to result in the deaths of the fewest animals would be beef, lamb, and dairy — not vegan. Davis found a study that measured mouse population density per hectare in grain fields both before and after harvest and estimated a harvest casualty rate of ten mice per hectare. Then, he multiplied that figure by 120 million hectares of farmland in the U.S.; meaning that 1.2 billion mice would die each year in food production if America became a wholly vegan country. Next, he estimated the number of animals that would be killed if half of our fields were dedicated to raising grass eating forage animals (cows, calves, sheep, lambs, etc.) from which to obtain meat. He found that there would Be 300,000 fewer animal deaths (.9 billion) annually from such an omnivorous diet than the number of deaths (1.2 billion mice) that would be caused from a universal vegan diet.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/225023/veganism-murder-wesley-j-smith

“… it appears that rice, when sown andharvested mechanically, takes the greatest toll on higheranimals, especially amphibians. This is because ricepaddies can support large populations of animals in arelatively small area.”

http://michael.freevision.org/evfaq3.txt

“[A] conservative annualized estimate of vertebrate deaths in organic rice farming is ~20 pound. … [T]his works out a bit less than two vertebrate deaths per square foot, and, again, is conservative. For conventionally grown rice, the gross body-count is at least several times that figure. … When cutting the rice, there is a (visual) green waterfall of frogs and anoles moving in front of the combine. Sometimes the “waterfall” is just a gentle trickle (± 10,000 frogs per acre) crossing the header, total for both cuttings, other times it is a deluge (+50,000 acre)."

http://prorevnews.blogspot.com/2011/10/vegans-are-animal-killers.html

[Mister44]

I guess I don’t care what you do or don’t eat, as long as you don’t get preachy. Life feeds on life, feeds on life, feeds on life…

And the angel of the lord came unto me
snatching me up from my place of slumber.
And took me on high and higher still
until we moved to the spaces betwixt the air itself.
And he brought me into a vast farmlands of our own midwest.
And as we descended cries of impending doom rose from the soil.
One thousand nay a million voices full of fear.
And terror possessed me then.
And I begged “Angel of the Lord what are these tortured screams?”
And the angel said unto me,
“These are the cries of the carrots, the cries of the carrots!
You see, Reverend Maynard,
tomorrow is harvest day and to them it is the holocaust.”
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
like the tears of one million terrified brothers and roared,
“Hear me now, I have seen the light!
They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul!
Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers!”
Can I get an amen?

[girard]

You do realize that livestock are fed grains which are farmed in exactly the same way, right? And that animal agriculture requires the excessive and unsustainable farming of crops, which increases the number of animals incidentally killed or displaced by such farming, and leads to widespread deforestation? (About 85% of soy grown is used to feed animals). So how exactly in the hell do vegans kill “more” animals than omnivores? Omnivores take the incidental deaths involved in plant agriculture, multiply them, and pile on top of them the completely unnecessary suffering and death of millions of large, complex, sensate animals.

No vegan who shops at the supermarket thinks that their diet literally causes zero suffering to any sensate entity. But they can be damned sure they are doing less harm to the world and contributing less pain to the world than an omnivore is. And they can do so without being a judgey asshole towards those omnivores, even when those omnivores are dead set on being judgey assholes toward them.

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I eat grass fed beef.

[girard]

@aaarrrrrggggg

Cows too! With considerably less animal death per pound than nearly any vegetable.

You…you do realize that those cows are fed a FUCKTON of vegetables, right?

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@IanMcLoud

I’m not a vegan because I love animals; I just really hate plants.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/A._Whitney_Brown

[DloBurns]

I used to think vegans were the most annoying food people.

Then paleo came along.

[OtherMichael]

lacto-ovo vegans?

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@OtherMichael

lacto-ovo vegans?

Is that even possible?

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@aaarrrrrggggg

I eat grass fed beef.

See above.

What do grass fed cows eat?

[IanMcLoud]

@aaarrrrrggggg

I’m not a vegan because I love animals; I just really hate plants.

A. Whitney Brown - Wikiquote

Even when I first said this to tease my younger sister, decades ago, I realized that this joke was probably not unique. Although, at the time, I didn’t have the internet to verify that for me…

[DloBurns]

Yeah, that’s the gist of Hindu vegetarianism.

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…but has nothing to do with veganism.

[chenille]

@aaarrrrrggggg

Frog populations are in decline. Vegans are to blame.

Yes, surely the decline of frog populations in North America, South America, Australia, Fiji, and elsewhere in the world is the result of there being so many vegans, who make up a substantial portion of the population in all these places. This is plainly a solid evidence-based deduction, not just blindly throwing any criticism you can come up with.

I hear a lot of people accuse vegans of acting holier-than-thou and proselytizing, but somehow when the topic comes up, I tend to see much more of that by anti-vegans. Here is an example. Speaking as someone who does eat meat, and knows society is a long way from making that difficult, the ire is perplexing.

[daneel]

[shaddack]

One word:
Bacon.

…and now I am craving some. Oops…

[PrestonSturges]

People tend to attach their self esteem and anger to all sorts of odd isolated things, and that’s hardly unique to vegans. People often become obsessed with single political issues or conspiracy theories and this is often described as psychological “displacement.”

[thaumatechnicia]

Me, I though: "Well, you cut out a chunk, say about fifteen grams, then you burn it, then you measure the ratio of carbon-14 to that of carbon-16…