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The cops completely fucked up what should have been a routine arrest. Their fuck up with arrest and then not getting medical attention is inexcusable.
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A crowd of people wondering “WTF is going on?” at Walmart doesn’t mean anything as far as what we are talking about.
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The intentions of the neighbor or his opinions on the outcome is complete speculation at this point.
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Sure, the South has more issues surrounding race, but using that as an excuse to speculate the neighbors intentions and paint the “heartland” with this broad brush isn’t helping anything. This sort of attitude is identical to what Trumpists and racists do.
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That would be pushing aside the whole reason why people are angry and why BB chose to share this. Whether the police followed warrant procedure is the aside.
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Yes, of course. But, more and more people in America are learning that you don’t call the cops on black/brown/poor people unless having them dead is not an entirely unacceptable outcome to you.
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Imagine being a law-abiding person of color and knowing that it’s unwise to call the police for anything, no matter how bad… because you know they will likely only make whatever the problem is even worse.
O_O
That’s my reality now; I fear the cops just as much as the crooks, probably even more so.
It’s gotten to the point that anyone who calls the police for any situation that isn’t immediately life threatening is indirectly endangering pretty much everyone in the vicinity, but especially if they happen to be PoC.
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MAGAists are chuckling over this one. Black man demands his rights and cops murder him. It’s all one big joke.
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Well said.
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Thank you! Here’s the odd thing: Mr Stinson seems to fancy himself an expert who reports on national studies and statistics around police shootings, and his Twitter certainly seems to skew heavily towards being critical of police, including this recently retweeted quote: “In the past, police have always owned the narratives, and that’s because a dead man can’t talk.”
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so the penalty for trespassing in your jurisdiction is execution?
share where that is so i can avoid it, not that i typically trespass in any jurisdiction but i don’t want to take ANY chances.
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You don’t think their annual donation to the Widows & Orphans fund of the local police just went up?
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Liked not only for the understandable skepticism, but for the Big Easy reference…
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Intent is immaterial to the outcome, which was predictable.
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It’s called passive language and it’s a sure sign that someone wants to obfuscate.
I dunno if I would go that far. Does this sort of thing happen way too often? Yes. Is the lack of accountability infuriating? Yes. But I still contend this sort of thing is too rare for it to be predictable.
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I liken it to Russian Roulette. If you load one bullet into a revolver and pull the trigger while it’s pointed at someone, sure you only have a one in six chance of killing them, but that won’t fly in court (unless you’re a cop and therefore above the law). Less than one in six? Okay, one in 12, or 60. How many chambers does the gun need to have before it becomes okay to load a bullet into it and pull the trigger while you point it at someone?
The threshold for calling the cops should be the same as calling a local gang member or pulling a gun on someone yourself, nothing short of imminent mortal danger. In other words, don’t call the cops on someone (or yourself) unless you’re willing to risk the lives of any civilians involved.
If the norm was for cops to de-escalate situations, that would be different. But the norm is for cops to escalate. That’s literally what they’re trained to do in the vast majority of situations.
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I’ve thought about this before, and I think “killer” is more apropos. Murder usually denotes forethought and malice. There’s emotion behind it. Killing is impersonal, passionless, systemic, and ultimately arbitrary. I’d much rather be murdered than killed.
I’d rather be alive.
The only thing that kills without emotion is a robot. Calling it murder is about not allowing the police to obscure the narrative by using more generic terminology. It is of course your prerogative to call it what you want, but I will continue to call it what it is.
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I would call it “careless disregard” for someone’s safety. It’s not a certainty, but it’s a well known and publicized risk, that if you call the cops on a POC, there’s a chance that encounter will be fatal.
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It shares many features with other types of stochastic terrorism.
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The good cops don’t put a stop to this. That means they are not good cops.
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Point of order: “A struggle ensued” is not a passive construction.
(Which isn’t to say someone’s not trying to obfuscate. But don’t impugn the passive voice.)
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