Hanlon’s Razor is fuck all use now too.
your post seems to be off topic. this isn’t about voluntary lock downs vs state enforced lock downs.
this is about a small group of right wing funded protestors who want daily life to return to normal despite the ongoing pandemic. a move that would kill hundreds of thousands of people at a minimum.
( a group encouraged by trump, fox news, and a few - but not all - of the republican governors )
From what I’ve seen, people calling for us to “sacrifice the weak” could probably just skip the middleman and euthanize themselves.
Stupidly.
I think you could use another
stupid(ly) in there.
Tennessee is a state where the vocal (bare) majority tout the value of human life by endorsing accelerated executions by the most barbaric means possible while denouncing abortion. I have given up trying to make sense of this situation even though I now live here. Logic does not seem apply, leaving me adrift.
You think so? The point I was trying to make was, that while obviously, and as shown in the article, there’s terrible reasons to protest a lockdown, and terrible ways how to do it, and terrible suggestions how to deal with this crisis, there’s also some not quite as terrible reasons, and less disruptive or dangerous ways to question the efficency and appropriatness of some state ordered measures.
I agree it’s a tangent, but it’s clearly in touch with the topic, and I don’t think it’s less productive than the cathartic, but ultimately pointless ritual of all agreeing that dumb and malevolent people are dumb and malevolent.
Covidiots or Flu Klux Klan (neither one mine).
I hear their leader is a certain “covfefe”
Let’s sacrifice the work week instead.
The order being protested in the post is:
This passage is relevant to your post:
“WHEREAS, because protecting personal liberty is deeply important, this Order is not a shelter-in-place mandate and instead strongly urges Tennesseans to stay at home when at all possible for the protection ofthemselves and their community”
If people were not allowed to go out or had to get permission to do so, then I would understand the protesters’ frustration. Despite the “lockdown”, they are free to go where ever they want without any special permission. The protest is purely about the state requiring some businesses to close. Which (at least to me) is not an issue of personal liberty
Thank you, so they are protesting something that has been far less strict then what we had to deal with here. And doing it in the ugliest possible manner, too, no doubt about that.
Yes, people not going to work if they are not essential or working from home is a pretty good idea in pandemic. It actual saves lives, which actual does matter to me and most of us here. Anyone who thinks that making others sick so you can go to a bar or out to get a message or a haircut is clearly an asshole.
In our current environment, Poe’s law applies and all bets are off…
The world is too fucked up to just assume it’s irony.
And even if it was a counter protester, how the fuck is she helping by being in a crowd of people? She needs to get her ass inside and grow the fuck up.
In 'Murica, the ability to think critically has been wilfully eroded by Republican State governments. Add the blatant disregard of longstanding federal laws and traditions plus the bloviating and seditious rantings of Dolt 45, and your German common sense is truly ‘foreign’ in the US.
Good point.
Plus, just because someone does something ironically, doesn’t mean it’s actually amusing, or edgy, or cool. “I’m being ironic” isn’t a get out of jail free card (same with “it’s a joke”). What’s the Scalzi quote? The failure mode of clever is just asshole. So either this person is an asshole because she’s calling for the death of people or she’s an asshole because she’s putting others in danger for the lulz. Either way, maybe she just needs to get a clue.
Thank you, I often find the gap to be larger than expected, certainly not because I have more “common sense”, but due to different discourses - things that seem self evident to me, can appear outlandish or offensive to American readers, and vice versa. I used to think I had an OK picture of what’s going on due to my consumption of US culture, news, and commentary, but that’s really proven to be a bit presumptuous of me at times. There’s quite a few things that are less universal than I expected them to be.
If you’re doing something stupid with the intent of being “ironic,” the reality is that you’re still doing something stupid, regardless of your motivation.
I don’t know. There is a power to that sign. It is the strategy, laid bare, in small, bumper-sticker words, with no weasel words or excuses.
“Sacrifice the weak”.
It’s all there. Laid bare. Elegantly put. Three words which cut to the heart of the matter, in simple, direct terms. I mean, I would have liked “Kill the weak” better; but it’s very good.
And she has effectively communicated her statement to millions of people. It is spreading the word of the goals of the protesters far and wide.
Now… I don’t know if she was doing this ironically or in earnest; but she and her slogan have become the face of the protest; no ambiguous “Freedom” or ignoring the cost or making it pretty.
“Sacrifice the Weak.”
She probably did more to destroy this movement by standing with them in that mask than any of us can do with our keyboards in a month’s time. And hell, she may have it; she may have spread it to the protesters, which will do even more to hurt them. None of which requires us to know her motivations. She may well have done this good without intending to.
“Sacrifice the Weak”
That should be Trump’s slogan in 2020. And it should be the tagline for everyone fighting against him.
And not “life,” but women’s bodies. Always comes down to male ownership of women’s bodies. Labor (both meanings), sex, opinions, whatever. Women are there to be pleasant assistants and playthings, not fully realized human beings.
And off topic, so I should stop now.