Man, that guy drinks like a… person who probably drinks too much.
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The problem with this is?
I mean personally speaking it’s like looking in a mirror…well, except for the muscles, hair, gargantuan physique, and massive amount of ink. But other than that it’s like we’re twins!
Not liking the thing you like is not marginalization. You are not being opressed by a system of entrenched bias predicated on your identity because some one disagrees with you. And the claim that Aquaman is kind of a wacky idea is not predicated on such a system or the ideology that drives it.
I havent seen that argument being made. And the trailer doesn’t exist in isolation. So based on the trailer, a thing that only exists so you can draw conclusions about the entire film. Previous DC films. The character’s previous DC film appearance. And the years of marketing about this movie.
People are drawing the conclusion that the movie doesn’t look very good, and they’re not sure what the hell DC is on about. Including people who know Aquaman is pretty goofy and like it that way.
Dude. You’re one step removed from saying people disagreeing with you is abridging your right to free speech. You literally argued that calling Aquaman a fish man was oppression on the order of misogyny and racism.
Take it down a notch.
That’s the thing. So few people seem to be enjoying these things. And yeah it’s fine if you do. But it’s not like they’re respectful to the source materials for comic fans. It’s not like their been shifted to be crowd pleasers. It’s not like they’ve been significantly altered because art. There weren’t big calls for an Aquaman movie going back decades like with Wonder Woman.
There seem to be plenty of people who just happen to like at least one dc movie. But the core base of fans for the whole debacle. The kind of people who circulate petitions demanding a secret Zack Snyder cut of Justice League (that doesn’t appear to exist). Have an awful lot of cross over with the folks who think a female lead Star Wars was the end of the world, And thought protesting Black Panther was the way to go. DC can’t be targeting that audience. Cause their tiny, And it’s clearly not filling their pockets.
So?
Yes. Several orders of magnitude more insane than Aquaman. And look how glorious and loved it was for letting it be that insane.
Groot wasn’t turned into a interplanetary biker with thorn powers. Rocket Raccoon stayed an actual raccoon instead of some sort of wolverine surrogate with a referencial code name. And it’s still been one of marvels biggest successes.
Most superheroes and comics. Are pretty weird and fundamentally stupid. But that’s a big part of what makes them worthwhile. DC seems to still be stuck in that loop where they need to make everything “cool”, or angry. Where they think things will sell better if they’re wearing an Ed Hardy shirt. But cool isn’t about tattoos, nihilism and Martha. It’s about not giving a shit that your a twink in a green speedo and bunching a giant starfish into the moon.
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I initially said it is disparaging the character. Boiling ANY one living or fictional down to a single aspect of their whole being and claiming they are worthless as a result IS BY DEFINITION DISPARAGING.
Again…it was stated above…its fictional characters, so no one is marginalized and its ok to not like something make believe regardless of the reasons.
The goal post is moving non stop. Again… LEAVE ME THE FUCK OUT OF IT.
The replies on here from a couple of people are as trolling and argumentative as anything I see from Trump supporters. I do not care to be apart of that. Leave me alone.
Right? Jason Momoa. That’s really all I need to know.
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Hang on. What “things” are these? Seems to me (and to you, or you would not still be arguing) that plenty of people in this thread are saying “Hey, yeah, that looks like a fun couple hours entertainment!” And rest assured I’ve read every post in the thread—wouldn’t want to miss any of the jokes (or the Jason Momoa gifs). So what is your basis for say that “few people seem to be enjoying these things”?
On a related tangent, one reason I keep harping on the casting is that IT’S ABOUT FREAKING TIME! Ask yourself, what population on Earth seems most likely to produce someone who can communicate sea creatures? Pacific Islanders get my vote every time. They missed (please excuse me) the boat in not making him Hawaiian from the get-go.
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You know who that sounds like a job for?
Joking aside, my wife and I saw the trailer when we went to see Ant-Man & Wasp (I believe). It did not “wow” either of us.
Check out the upcoming Spider-Man animated movie. Still just a trailer, but I see a whole lot of potential in it.
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Um. I think a list of the most popular films of the past few years, much less of All Time, would disagree with you.
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The “things” in question are the DC movies, though I’m more referring to the DC movie universe (I guess they call it the DCEU?).
Well I think if you look around Jason Momoa is just about the one unequivocal good in this. Aquaman’s appearance in Justice League is considered one of its few highlights. And not because of anything they did with them. But because of Jason Momoa and his performance. The trailer is really heavy on Jason Momoa being Jason Momoay. I’ve seen a lot of people say they don’t get Aquaman, but hey Jason Momoa.
But I’ve kind of a got a bone to pick there. (Wait! It’s not the one you think!)
So when they cast Momoa there was a lot of talk from the DC people about Momoa Being Pacific Islander would be really important to how they portrayed Aquaman and Atlantis. And that’s really good.
Part of what make Aquaman hard is that Atlantis is kind of. I dunno all over the place. In some versions it’s just sort of his fortress of solitude. But Sea creatures he hangs out with are there. Some times its a sort of generic undersea kingdom. The most fully figured version is the more recent Atlantis is psuedo fantasy, weighty king of the sea thing. With vague connections to the Atlantis of myth and the occult. But Atlantis always seems to be either just somewhere Aquaman is somewhere. Or complex justification for the characters short comings. He doesn’t just talk to fish! He’s the mighty king of ancient Atlantis! It just never seems to work or connect fully with what their doing with the character.
But Atlantis as sunken Polynesian kingdom is a great peg to hang your hat on. You can still get all the rivals for the throne, complex back story DC geopolitics stuff that works about some of the newer take. But instead of this mushy mix of continuity, popular conception, Greek myth, And faux Jack Kirby. It’s all based on Polynesian myths, history and culture. Great way to clean it up tie it all together. It gives you a clear visual design motif to build it all around. It gives a really good basis for the whole ocean based super hero.
But they don’t seem to be doing that. The character design is clearly drawn from that. And Momoa’s take on the character. Which is neither Earnest Fish Guy nor Angry Sea king. But everything we’ve seen about the rest of the movie. Atlantis is still a bunch of bulky undersea armor, laser tridents, And the whitest actor I can think of as Aquaman’s brother.
I was initially excited for this thing. Till I got a clearer bead on where they were taking it. And saw a few of the movies that have come out.
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OK, but how do you figure that few people like them? Even Justice League, the lowest-performing non-LEGO recent DC movie, grossed a respectable $229 billion.
I follow you. They failed to fulfill your hopes and you’re disappointed. Understandably. Your version would have been awesome. While we’re waiting, though, I’m just going to be happy we didn’t get yet another needlessly white magic white guy (looking at you, Danny Rand). (And hell, if they can cast Idris Elba as Heimdall and make the fanboys love it, do any of them need to be anything in particular? Besides damned fine actors?)
I don’t know where boxofficemojo gets their numbers, but somebody has a decimal place off. The record-holder, Avatar, only made 2.8 billion worldwide.
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What the DC flicks? Or rather the recent “shared universe” ones?
Last I checked. Excepting Wonder Woman, theyve all been critically panned. Popularly ridiculed. Saw abbreviated theater runs in the US. With massive falloff in ticket sales after their opening weekends. Made most of their money internationally. And typically brought in box office numbers that, even when high. Likely didn’t cover their exhorbinant budgets.
As for where they rank on lists of popular movies. Well they’re pretty low rated on the usual suspects.
Often well below even older DC movies that are considered terrible.
Also when did those sites switch from easy ranked lists to listicles and slide shows? Or is it just because I’m on mobile.
I caught some Brave and the Bold vibes from Momoa’s performance in Justice League, it’s a good place to take it, especially considering the actor.
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Well crap. Shows how much I’m invested in the D.C. Movie Universe 
That’s me. Millions. Still respectable. BoxOfficeMojo, apparently uses the same receipt reports as everyone else. And I work in a non-math field, so everyone can sigh in relief.
I’m assuming you meant million. Justice league had a production budget of it least $300. And it’s rumored to have cost significantly more thanks to production delays, reshoots, And mustaches. There is almost no way that movie didn’t lose money. And DC is apparently specifically panicked about the results and looking to alter their plans on the face of what’s broadly considered their biggest failure yet.
Like previous DCEU movies (except Wonder Woman). It’s theater run was cut short. After initial opening (some of them quite big) there’s a rapid drop off in ticket sales so these movies have been rapidly moved out of theaters. More recent movies have opened on fewer screens. Like previous movies it was critically panned. Like previous movies it’s ratings on user review sites are really low. The popular conversation about it is mostly making fun (except Wonder Woman and Aquaman). That mustache is the biggest meme to come out of it. There are reports of massive piles of unsold toys and merch. And I’ve seen them with mine own eyes. Discount racks loaded with Stephen Wolf figures and flash masks. Each DC sequel has made less money than the proceeding one (except Wonder Woman). Their biggest box office numberstill never crossed the coveted billion dollar mark.
A good number of people are going to see these movies. Asses are hitting seats, especially outside the US. Though far fewer than when man of steel and Batman vs Superman electric murder dance opened. But it’s largely just during opening weekends and people just don’t seem too happy about what they’re seeing.
It’s not that they didn’t fulfill my hopes. It’s that they dangled something potentially very interesting. And nothing comparably interesting turned up. I’d have been plenty happy with something totally different. Something wildly different from existing Aquaman. Something closer to any given comics or cartoon version of Aquaman. Provided they did something interesting with it. Something thought out. As it is it looks like they think “Jason Momoa is Aquaman” is enough.
Which yeah that’s nice. But you gotta have more of an idea than that.
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Originally, the running gag of the Super Friends show was to have her throw the rope around different Super Friends at the end of every episode and make them confess to embarrassing secrets. The first few confessions were pretty tame, mostly they confessed to eating each other’s leftover pizza or not washing their hands after using the bathroom. Then one day, Aquaman took out a wallet full of photos of all the sea creatures he’s humped, including a rating of how numb their toxins made his “Aquawang.” This was where the show finally reconsidered the truth lasso confession finale, and retooled the show to be more responsible children’s programming. Did you ever wonder why everyone laughs when Gleek does something stupid and unfunny at the end of the show? It’s because they’re using the same laughing footage from when Aquaman got teary eyed about his past fish lovers.
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OK, serious critique of the trailer (which may or may not bode badly for the finished movie): is it really necessary to emphasize how easily Atlanteans can catch spears thrown at their faces? It’s a kind of cool move to do once, but showing the same move twice in the span of less than 40 seconds diminishes it a bit.
Remember the original trailer for Iron Man, in which the main character narrowly avoids getting hit by a round from a tank and then cooly dispatches a wrist missile to blow up the bad guys just before turning to walk away like a badass while it explodes behind him? Cool move, right?
Now imagine they added an extra shot to the trailer in which Ironmonger does exactly the same thing. Now the cool move is just dumb because it looks like everyone is doing it. Even worse, it suggests that there aren’t a whole lot of other cool moves happening in the movie itself.
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Except in this case it’s the same guy. So think of it as Dr Strange training and learning a defensive move and then using said defensive move later on in combat.
Lame to show both moments a trailer…sure. Lame in context of the movie. Not really.
That kid is Aquaman.
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