Arrest warrant issued for Putin

The criticism of the ICC used to be that it understood very well “how the world works”.


The Kremlin is urging Russian cinemagoers to remember 1945. A state-funded romantic thriller, depicting love, skulduggery and justice at the world’s first war crimes trial, recently opened nationwide. Nuremberg, written and directed by Nikolai Lebedev, promises to counter ‘the falsification of history’, according to the foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, who thinks parallels with the present are obvious. ‘In a number of European countries, primarily Ukraine and the Baltic states, they are not only justifying the Nazis and their henchmen,’ he says. ‘They are reviving the ideology and practices of the Third Reich.’


This all would have been resolved by now if the US and UK hadn’t invaded the Ukraine.


No negotiations needed. Putin pulls Russian troops out of sovereign Ukrainian territory (including the bogus republics in Donbas) and the war ends. The bad ol’ US and UK won’t object, I promise.


The ICC has been accused of bias and as being a tool of Western imperialism

Well yeah, I mean if Bush and Cheney weren’t arrested for Iraq and Afghanistan, nor Obama and HRC for Libya. . . :person_shrugging:


… my eyerolls are at “Geoffrey York” and his tweets more than at the ICC

As you say, it’s just doing its job


… you seriously think, if Ukraine wanted to “negotiate” with Russia right now, that anybody in the world could prevent it :confused:


Richly deserved, but what about the ones for George W. Bush and Tony Blair?


37m ago12.38 GMT

South Africa has said it is aware of its legal obligations relating to Vladimir Putin’s international arrest warrant ahead of his planned visit to the country in August, Reuters reports.

President Cyril Ramaphosa’s spokesman, Vincent Magwenya, said on Sunday: “We are, as the government, cognisant of our legal obligation. However, between now and the summit we will remain engaged with various relevant stakeholders.”

Putin is expected to visit South Africa in August for a BRICS summit, when Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa hold talks.

South Africa has not condemned Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but the ruling by the international court puts them in a tricky spot after the arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) on Friday.

“We note the report on the warrant of arrest that the ICC has issued,” Magwenya said. “It remains South Africa’s commitment and very strong desire that the conflict in Ukraine is resolved peacefully through negotiations.”


From 2016

Fourth, while the International Criminal Court (“ICC” or the “Court”) currently has jurisdiction over war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, as explained to The Telegraph , its jurisdiction over the crime of aggression has not yet been activated. Therefore, the specific question of the legality of the decision to resort to the use of force in Iraq in 2003 – or elsewhere – does not fall within the legal mandate of the Court, and hence, is not within the scope of its preliminary examination.


How many war crimes add up to a War Crime™? The US invasion of Iraq has dozens to choose from…


It looks like he is a Qonservative, so I doubt he would help.


I am as unsurprised as it is possible to be.


Specificity is the name of the game here.

Bush and Cheney started a specific program of torture. Is that specific enough for you?


From the Guardian’s Ukraine liveblog:

12m ago14.37 GMT

International criminal court (ICC) prosecutor, Karim Khan, has said that the arrest warrant for President Vladimir Putin over alleged war crimes was a “sombre” occasion and not one for “triumphalism” or “backslapping”.

Khan was addressing a meeting of international justice ministers in London to ask for extra cash to pursue Russian war crimes in Ukraine, including the potential prosecution of Putin for overseeing the abduction of children from Ukraine to Russia. He said:

It is really a very sad occasion and a very sombre occasion, that for the first time ever, judges of the international criminal court, of any court, have felt it necessary to issue warrants against a leader and senior state officials from a permanent member of the (UN) security council.

In granting the request for warrants by Khan, a panel of judges agreed on Friday that there were “reasonable grounds” to believe Putin and his children’s rights commissioner, Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova, bore responsibility for the “unlawful deportation” of Ukrainian children.

In a statement on Friday, Khan said incidents identified by his office included “the deportation of at least hundreds of children taken from orphanages and children’s care homes.”

Many of the children had been put up for adoption in Russia, he said, adding that Putin had issued a decree expediting the conferral of Russian citizenship on the children, making them easier to adopt.

Speaking today, Khan said:

I say repatriate the children, return the children, reunite the children. If there is any semblance of truth to the utterances that this is for the sake of children, instead of giving them a foreign passport, return them to the countries of their nationality.

6m ago14.44 GMT

ICC prosecutor Karim Khan, speaking earlier today, said the arrest warrant for President Vladimir Putin would not expire if and when the war in Ukraine ends.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, Khan said:

There’s no statute of limitations for war crimes. That’s one of the principles of Nuremberg, and individuals – wherever they are in the world - need to realise the law is present and there are responsibilities that come with authority.

The arrest warrant for Putin and his commissioner for children’s rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, would stay for the rest of their lives “unless they present themselves to the independent judges of the court and the judges, on the merits, decide to dismiss a case”, he said.


I want to be surprised Tuesday with Putin magically showing up to be indicted in New York. And Trump disappeared.


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