Attempted Coup in the United States: Tracking Investigations and Fallout

I have been saying that if there aren’t some dramatic changes for the average Joe & Jane in America over the next few years, we’re toast. This comes close to describing the situation in metaphor, but not quite on-the-nose enough, yet.

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Appears she is still on the run contrary to that persons tweet.

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Damn it!

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Like, getting into their heads and undoing the racism and sexism and identity-phobias that propelled them into supporting Trump?

Those MAGAbots who flooded the Capitol likely have a pretty high average income. It’s by and large not working class people who have the time and money it takes to constitute a serious threat to the social and political order.

None of which is to say that I don’t agree that the wealth gap has gotten waaaaay out of hand.

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I think we can all agree that Thanksgiving this year for that family is gonna be alot more peaceful

Reffitt allegedly admitted to his family that he’d participated in the attacks, telling the family that “we” (likely the TFF, according to a criminal filing) had “stormed the Capitol.” He also allegedly told family that he’d brought a gun with him to D.C.

Reffitt’s children allegedly were “disturbed” by his “extreme” statements. When they expressed alarm, he allegedly told them that “if you turn me in, you’re a traitor and you know what happens to traitors…traitors get shot.”

His wife provided information on the fight to investigators.

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Trailer Park Jesus F’ing Christ!

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I agree with your response here entirely. My thinking on the topic isn’t bent towards those struggling with metastatic Trumpism, it’s focused on the “undecided voter”, the disenfranchised, and the disinterested. Without giving them a better America, they’ll have no possible motivation to get involved in the future.

I feel as if we need action on the same level of FDR’s activist government, with maybe some provisions that make it take an even longer time for the wealthy to dismantle.

The odds are against such events from occurring, but I’lll allow myself a bit of hope for the future.

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Right!? This is not a poor-people’s uprising. This is a reactionary uprising. These are people who are very angry because poor people and POC and LBGTQ people and even some women have been protesting and pushing for systemic change… and some of that change has happened or even been discussed. These are the people who are so damned mad about that they’d burn the whole country down to the ground just to make sure it’s theirs and no one else’s. Poor people have never been able to enjoy the delusion that they own this country and government or that it operates for them. These are people who are so damned selfish that they are jealous of other people’s oppression. That takes real privilege and entitlement.

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The Ten Week Tantrum

By Josh Marshall

January 18, 2021 7:59 a.m.

We are now in the final 52 hours of the Trump presidency – I just checked. We will be trying to digest for years just what happened over the last three weeks. But in the simplest sense it’s been an 10 or 11 week temper tantrum by a failed, lawless President who couldn’t face defeat and had one of the country’s two political parties enabling his tantrum right up through January 6th.

If we look back to early November, which genuinely seems a lifetime ago, there were perhaps forty eight hours after the election where actual political operatives and lawyers on the Trump side – no dead-enders, degenerates and fascist pillow salesmen – looked at the results from every different angle to find a way forward. Arizona and Georgia were both very close. For a couple of days those seemed possibly winnable, at least in theory. But of course those weren’t enough. You also needed at least one of the big midwestern states. There was no way to get there. And if you look at the contemporaneous news reports we see examples of those actual operatives and lawyers telling the President and his top advisors there was no way forward. That’s when we shifted into full lies and destruction mode.

What’ve seen is the President turn the transition period – something pretty unique to the American system – into a two-plus month long period in which the winner of the election has to fight to make sure the results of the election are honored. Given Trump’s history, the best way to view it is that Joe Biden won a court judgment against Trump and Trump said, “Fine, good luck enforcing it.”

It’s a common Trump pattern.

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Interesting! Just from the video, that looks like a quick-thinking good cop.

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Indeed.

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If there’s any justice in all this, there are a bunch of people whose options at this point should be rest of life in jail or on the run. And if they can make the espionage stuff stick, she’s one of them (even if it was a dumb/useless plan).

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totally and completely disagree.

the democrats just won by (almost) completely ignoring the republican base and by encouraging black and progressive white voters to get to the polls. if it weren’t for things like the drug war and other deliberate disenfranchisements of black voters, as well as so frequently ignoring addressing the needs of minority communities and demonizing government “socialism” ( thus leading people who are enfranchised to be disillusioned ) - the republicans wouldn’t stand a chance in electoral politics

they know that which is why they’re so focused on stealing elections. that’s the only way they can win.

ignore trump voters. focus on the communities who just voted for the democrats. make real change, and let ex-trumpers join us down the road when they realize it’s not “the end of all things”

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I can dig it and I agree with what you’re saying. However, I wasn’t suggesting that we focus on Trumpers at all!

I’m talking about the people who sit on the sidelines or voluntarily disenfranchise because “WTF has America ever done for me?” kind of thinking. I feel as if progressive policies like single-payer healthcare could go a long way towards getting more skin in the game, but I know very little if anything at all.

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Family members, co-workers and internet sleuths throughout the country have been high fiving each other this past week and a half

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Yeah OK but this topic is about those metastatic Trumpists and their insurrection

“The working class just need better health care” is always true but not always relevant

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Sounds like MIGOP want to be sacrifices in the Trump pyramid as well.

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“ One of them is Timothy Hale-Cusanelli, a member of the U.S. Army Reserve, who as a defense contractor at Naval Weapons Station Earle in New Jersey, has a security clearance and access to a variety of munitions, according to court documents.

A police affidavit says Hale-Cusanelli, of Colts Neck, N.J., is “an avowed white supremacist and Nazi sympathizer” who posts videos on YouTube under the title the “Based Hermes Show,” showcasing extreme political viewpoints.”

This guy was turned in by his wife:

The Three Percenters

Guy Wesley Reffitt, of Wylie, Texas, was arrested Jan. 18 in his home state.”

“ Court documents say Reffitt threatened his son and daughter following his return home from the Jan. 6 siege at the Capitol. Reffitt’s son said he saw his father bring home an AR-15 rifle and a Smith & Wesson pistol when he returned. Those firearms, among others, were retrieved by police when they searched his home.

Reffitt told his adult son that if he “crossed the line” and reported him to the police, Reffitt would have no option but to “do what he had to do,” according to the affidavit. Reffitt’s children told their mother what their father said to them. She confronted Reffitt and he said, “he was trying to protect the family, and if someone was a traitor then that’s what’s going to happen.”

Family values.

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