You can print it out and hang it on your wall like the “lizard people” guy, but that does exactly as much as your impotent gesture.
It’s as useless as an Internet petition that a dozen people have signed.
And the DLC third-way officials prosper, primarily because progressives are more interested in stamping their feet with these tantrums rather than action.
Unless you live in a swing state, being just one more person voting for Clinton doesn’t mean anything either.
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I reckon that in Nov, Clinton will carry this state (WA) by something like 1.7m to 1.1m. Johnson might get 200K, Stein less than half that? (and that’s being generous to them)
true but the modifier “largely” is needed. i’m a middle-aged white dude who is to the left of anyone running for national elective office as was my father while he was alive, and as is my older son. my younger son doesn’t pay close enough attention to politics to fit into a paradigm but he’s voting against trump. most of my male cousins on my dad’s side of my family are also center-left to left. my cousin’s on my mom’s side . . . the less said the better.
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I don’t like to gloat about it but every time I read one of these threads I think how much better off you guys would be with a preferential system. Fearlessly vote for whoever you want!
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I’m tired of people trying to shame or threaten Bernie supporters into voting for Hillary. She won’t get my vote. I’m voting for a good candidate, not the least-bad of two bad candidates. I respect Bernie and understand why he’s done it, but I’ve made up my mind. She is incredibly dishonest, has been given a pass for illegal activity and speaks out of the side of her face. She’s a false progressive, only conceding that endorsing Bernie’s policies will generate votes. I’m voting outside the approved boxes, and I hope many others will, too. Then maybe the parties will start listening.
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I really didn’t; I’ve been active in party politics for many years, going back to my first canvassing for LBJ as a kid, and while living in in an overwhelmingly Democratic state for several years has made the participation less urgent for me I’ve still been paying attention. If white men are negligible, African-Americans are even less so, since they (men and women together) comprise only 13% of the entire electorate. Now, we know that any assertion that the minority vote is unimportant is absurd, likewise no sane candidate will ignore the white male vote or agree with your strange pronouncement that the way to defeat conservatism is to have “fewer white dudes”
The takeover within the party leadership was very much a coup, and a reaction not to 20 years of political failure but rather to Reagan’s big presidential win. There was no string of political ass-kickings. Democrats controlled the House from 1955 through 1992. They did lose the Senate for a few years (81-86), but not by much, and they regained it by '87. A cynic would argue that the DLC created then exploited a false narrative that Reagan’s big win meant a crisis for the party’s future.
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Your protest has the ability to move Trump all the way into the White House. And he won’t care.
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Bernie for ten months has been saying Hillary is:
- Corrupt
- In bed with Wall Street
- Controlled by Big Business
- A liar
- Not Qualified to be POTUS
Now he’s asking you to forget all that stuff and support her.
Yeah, right. Ain’t gonna happen.
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No, hes saying that those things aren’t as bad as a blatant fascist.
I agree with him on that.
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Except he was saying that long before a “blatant fascist” was a sure thing.
You can rationalize all you want but a vote for the Monster is a vote to perpetuate things as they are.
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Which monster are you referring to?
Trump is a vote for WWIII. Clinton is a vote for climate catastrophe (and possibly WWIII as well).
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[why not both gif]
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July 13, 2016 - Clinton Losing On Honesty In Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania,Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll Finds
With a drop in grades on honesty and moral standards, Democrat Hillary Clinton loses an 8-point
lead over Republican Donald Trump in Florida, and finds herself in too-close-to-call races in the
three critical swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to a Quinnipiac University
Swing State Poll released today.
Clinton loses ground on almost every measure from a June 21 survey by the independent
Quinnipiac University. The Swing State Poll focuses on Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania because since 1960 no candidate has won the presidential race without taking at least two of these three states.
The presidential matchups show:
Florida - Trump at 42 percent to Clinton’s 39, compared to a 47 - 39 percent Clinton lead June 21;
Ohio - Clinton and Trump tied 41 - 41 percent, compared to a 40 - 40 percent tie June 21;
Pennsylvania - Trump at 43 percent to Clinton’s 41 percent, compared to June 21, when
Clinton had 42 percent to Trump’s 41 percent.
“Donald Trump enters the Republican Convention on a small roll in the three most important swing states in the country. He has wiped out Hillary Clinton’s lead in Florida; is on the upside of too-close to call races in Florida and Pennsylvania and is locked in a dead heat in Ohio,” said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.
Republican candidates since Tom Dewey have been called Nazis by the left.
I don’t think many voters are paying attention to that label any more.
How many of them were calling for the mass registration and exclusion of all members of a major religion?
Past instances of “crying wolf” does not mean that wolves don’t exist.
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Hey, Hillary is the warmonger - check her record. She is the Monster. Not that I would vote for Trump.
The point is, Bernie sold out and in doing so stomped on all his supporters.
If any of them turn to Clinton, they are perpetuating the systems as-isa.
It’s the classic shit sandwich vs giant douche fight.
You’re absolutly right she is bad for all those reasons. But Sander’s base is going to vote for her because Trump is even worse. Or maybe Jill Stein.
I predict we will see more 3rd party votes cast for anyone since Perot.
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