Bill Cosby made a joke about his rape accusations during stand-up routine

[anon68952647]

@Jemak

Well, you’re wrong. But it’s interesting to note how quickly the misogyny horn got blown.

I pity you.

Oh stop pissing on peoples legs and telling them it’s raining.

[anon68952647]

@Jemak

Why? Because I have this crazy idea that both women and men should be treated equally in all ways including those of behavioral scrutiny? You’re the expert, I guess.

[KarlS]

@marilove

Apparently @Jemak isn’t aware that WITNESS TESTIMONY is, in fact, factual evidence and admissible in a court of law.

Perhaps they should make a TV show called Deposition Las Vegas. How else are people supposed to know?

[anon73629133]

@Jemak

When ignorant, public voices like @Humbabella get more credibility than a court of law, just because it is noisier, (or crying misogyny), all hope for an intelligent future is completely lost.

ROFL. On any given topic, I think most of us have better odds wrestling a bear than making a more credible argument than Humba’

[FunkDaddy]

Christ Almighty, did anyone else get the feeling while reading @Jemak posts in this thread that perhaps they were reading The American science denial playbook thread?

Imma nona belive it iffn I ainta seen it, yalls wants ta prove ta me thet thar Sun upn thet thar sky is a hi-drow-gin bomb a sum sort yall jest git a rocket n fire me up n er.

[anon68952647]

@funruly

On any given topic, I think most of us have better odds wrestling a bear than making a more credible argument than Humba’

You should put a NSFW tag on that stuff!

[Elusis]

@Jemak

Welcome to the internet, where everyone is an idiot but you and if you disagree using any semblance of logic instead of fervent emotional fanaticism you’re a [sexist, racist, classist, etc]. Even if nobody knows a damn thing about you or your personal position on any of those topics.

Right. Anyone who sees things differently than you do is an “emotional fanatic,” but you strictly argue from an objective reading of the facts, involving absolutely no assumptions or biases on your part of any kind.

You’re pretty much working the entire “Derail with Intellectualism” playbook here, so good job.

Derail Using Intellectualism - Derailing For Dummies

Also, see my reference to Zizek and “unknown knowns” elsewhere.

[marilove]

What about the Sundusky case, @Jemak. There was no PHYSICAL evidence there. What do you think of THAT case? Were those boys all lying?

[anon50609448]

@Elusis

Also, see my reference to Zizek and “unknown knowns” elsewhere.

Thanks Žižek! I like that because it’s so obvious that the (un)known / (un)known construct has four different states, but its so easy to be blind to that one of them. What irony!

@marilove

What about the Sundusky case,

Thinking about Sandusky, the thing that suddenly jumps to my mind that I hadn’t really thought about for Cosby before is, “Who knew?” With Sandusky a lot of people knew in the college’s administration, with Ghomeshi a lot of people knew at CBC. Obviously 30 women knew, obviously many of them had at least one confidant who they discussed the matter with. But at some point if Cosby was engaging in this behaviour over years, other people knew it was happening - people with significant power who chose to ignore it because it was inconvenient for them.

One of the incidents took place at the Playboy mansion, and Hugh Hefner released a statement saying that such behaviour would never be tolerated at the mansion (a sort of, “I didn’t know, and I would have done something if I did know” statement). I’m not saying Hefner knew in particular, just that he is someone who, had things gone a certain way, might have known. Every time this happened it happened somewhere and it happened around people. It must have often happened around people who knew both Cosby at the victim. There are too many people who might have known for there to be no one who did know.

And some of these allegations aren’t new, some have been around a long time. The new thing is people are listening, and with people listening more people are emboldened to come forward. We all ought to have known about this for a decade at the very least. Those people who were planning a Cosby TV comeback who cancelled it when these allegations were coming out didn’t cancel it because Cosby raped women, they cancelled it because public perception was shifting to think of Cosby as a man who raped women. It’s hard for me to believe that at least some of them didn’t already know.

[popobawa4u]

@Elusis

Right. Anyone who sees things differently than you do is an “emotional fanatic,” but you strictly argue from an objective reading of the facts, involving absolutely no assumptions or biases on your part of any kind.

You’re pretty much working the entire “Derail with Intellectualism” playbook here, so good job.

Hey! That’s my job! XD
Jemak was not arguing from objectivity, because they put forth a completely fabricated version of US legal process. Sure, it’s not exactly hard science, but it is well documented!

[Elusis]

I know I’ve already seen articles about one or more guys in Cosby’s employ whose job was to pay people off to keep quiet about his various asshole moves including the rapes.

[daneel]

Bill Cosby paid off women says ex-NBC employee

Evidence! Said by a man!

[HMSGoose]

I totally forgot about that. That’s just adds another level of (irony?) to the “what if these women were paid to accuse Cosby!!!”…the fact that there is pretty good evidence he paid to try to silence them!

[anon50609448]

@HMSGoose

the fact that there is pretty good evidence he paid to try to silence them!

Right, so they took money to be silent and now they are going back on that? So basically they are liars, who can trust them?

Shamefully, this stuff virtually writes itself.

[Raita]

Are you kidding me? This conversation is still going on? No evidence, let’s not believe 30 women, blah blah blah.

Seriously,people never believe rape victims. This is a serious problem, and going on and on about how there’s no evidence undermines every effort to make it easier for us victims of rape to raise our voice and be taken seriously.