Billy Corgan upset

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Fuckin A!

Even though I do enjoy some of his earlier movies, I have no love for the man himself.

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I just for the first time ever realized his name is Billy Corgan and not Billy Corrigan, so, I guess it’s working for him, this attention-paid-to-him-deficit-disorder that has doctors recommending he find platforms that will make him look dumb saying dumb things.

When he’s on his deathbed he can open his wikipedia page and say ā€œLook, if I had stopped at singing all it would say here is that I was in this Smashing Pumpkins band. But now lookitit, page after page of me saying dumb shit and other people talking about it… look at all those citations man! You don’t have half as many! HA!ā€

And then he’ll croak.

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Is she purring?

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Has there ever been a cat around me that didn’t purr? (Well, two, and I still have scars from one…)

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Now there’s a guy I wish would take his own advice, though to be fair, he has some really creepy fans.

Doesn’t anyone whose even remotely famous have creepy fans?

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Are you claiming that Wil Wheaton is a dick? Wot?

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Well, he was all for putting people’s real names on their social profiles, so there’s that. and he seemed to flat out refuse to accept that Max Temkin might be a rapist. But I’ve said too much. I try to keep in mind that he’s a human being, but I guess what I’m getting at is that he runs with a crowd who also forgets that sometimes human beings say stupid assholish things. Lord knows I have had verbal diarrhea spill out time and again.

I’m not sure how that makes you a ā€œdickā€ though I think it is misguided to require it. There are arguments for it, that I actually often like, but not as much as the arguments for anonymity.

I have no idea who Max Temkin is and don’t care enough to google for his name. :slight_smile:

Update: so now I googled and I am still confused about how Wheaton’s personal belief about whether some game maker is a rapist or not makes him a dick. I mean, if Temkin was convicted in a court of law and Wheaton denied it, sure, but, otherwise, it just looks like a potential Internet witch hunt (which means it could be true that Temkin is a rapist but it might not be, which is why we have courts).

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Saying he was implies that he later changed his mind. We all have stupid ideas, at least he didn’t double down as an actual dick would.

I’ve actually been thinking about this on and off ever since your post, so thank you for a literally thought-provoking comment.

Here’s the problem with a that: humor is an individual taste, and the people at comedy shows go to see what they find funny.

If you allow person A to use a word because you think they are funny, and you excoriate person B because you think they aren’t, well, you are basically exercising your own right to free speech, and that’s OK even if it’s kind of arrogant and self-centered to believe your own sense of humor is infallible.

But when you start talking about legal restrictions on speech, or participating in gang harrassment of person B, that’s not the same thing at all. So I think it would be wise to consider Lenny Bruce’s actual point, a point George Carlin also made, instead of just saying that they get to be politically incorrect because they are funny. In both cases, these men were occasionally quite insightful.

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Yes, exactly this, a thousand times. It’s ALL about the context. And as I was trying to say (I don’t know how clearly?), there are so many elements to that context that most people don’t think about. Something as seemingly simple yet precise as how long to pause between thoughts- And Jon Stewart was a master at this- can completely change the tone of the statements on either side from serious to sarcastic to disbelief to mockery to outrage.

And again, the problem (which maybe I failed to convey by sticking with the comedy example) is that you have people like say, right wing radio hosts, who are so ignorant (or contemptuous) of context that they will argue in all seriousness ā€œWell, if it’s okay to say that word when discussing the cultural impact of Huckleberry Finn, then I should be able to use it to refer to Trayvon Martinā€.

I really wish I could come up with a cure for stupid that didn’t involve a nuclear winter.

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Damn, so this is what being out of likes feels like.

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OutrƩ phenylethylamines and raves on beaches?

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Drum circles and raw veganism for all!

That’s spooky, 'cause I’m feeling really decompressed in Maine, laying on a California King bed…

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ā€œcareerā€