Originally published at: https://boingboing.net/2020/03/08/blackwater-founder-erik-prince.html
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And just as much when it doesn’t.
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It is unclear if Trump’s support of Project Veritas spurred Prince’s interest in the group, but in late 2015 or early 2016, Prince arranged for O’Keefe and Project Veritas to receive training in intelligence and elicitation techniques from a retired military intelligence operative named Euripides Rubio Jr. According to a former Trump White House official who discussed the Veritas training with Rubio, the former special operative quit after several weeks of training, complaining that the Veritas group wasn’t capable of learning. Rubio did not respond to requests for comment.
You can’t fix stupid.
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Gee, can’t imagine why a teacher’s union was targeted… possibly because big sis is incompetent, she hates public schools and EVERYBODY WAS BEING MEAN TO HER! ‘Deep State’, obvs.
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It looks like it is time for liberals to adopt some of the security culture that has unfortunately had to be a part of so many leftist groups for a long time. As the stakes get higher and you get further from acceptability to people with power, you have to adapt to new threats. It is a shame to see it because groups like AFT are at their most effective when they are as public as possible.
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When someone describes fucking Pinkertons as a “domestic Blackwater”, you’ve set the standard for low.
On other occasions, the Pinkertons functioned as a sort of domestic Blackwater, working alongside law enforcement to surveil workers and break strikes.
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If Obama did this, of course…
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And we’re surprised? The right has always infiltrated leftist groups and organizations. The only difference is it’s private groups now more than the government (but with the governments explicit approval). The left, violent or not, has ALWAYS born the brunt of fear and hatred in this country and been targeted for destruction via tactics like this. It’s why the Black Panthers lasted a mere decade while the KKK has gone on for a century and a half.
There’s nothing new here. The only new thing is who pays the money for these spies.
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“This is exactly the kind of immoral intelligence tactics that Trump has when it happens to him”
When did that happen to him? From the subsequent link: Trump’s not necessarily wrong about the potential abuses of secret and/or warrantless surveillance
That’s some overly cautious journalism there. Quotes around necessarily, and/or with one option being mandatory. The surveillance HAD to be secret, just like the email server… oh, wait
My point is, the investigations by the FBI into the Trump campaign were vetted and proper. Investigations off the books by a war criminal through an organization founded by a felon (pled to misdemeanor) resulting in deceptively edited video is another thing all together.
I’m thinking that we need to do need some covert activity to balance this off. The difference should be that the video would be raw and unedited. It would take only seconds for them to sink themselves. The GOP can’t help shoving their Ferragamos down their throats in public. We can only imagine what it’s like behind closed doors, the occasional glimpses show this in spades
Leaked tapes on Democrats usually reveal how we eat our own
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Yeah, not really.
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Betsy DeVos and Erik Prince are siblings and the rotten sure runs deep in that family.
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This reddit post about his sister:
has an interesting comment about Republicans habits:
Fucking children is a major part of the republican agenda, it’s why they like Trump so much
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was sentenced to 15 months in prison in a hush money case that revealed he was being accused of sexually abusing young boys as a teacher in Illinois
A Georgia pastor and and conservative political activist Ken Adkins was sentenced to 35 years in prison on charges of child molestation and aggravated child molestation.
Republican mayor Thomas Adams of Illinois charged with 11 counts of disseminating child pornography and two counts of possession of child pornography.
Republican campaign worker and self proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken convicted of having se? with two underage girls.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican activist and rising Colorado Republican star Randal David Ankeney (who named his dogs Nixon and Reagan) pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Later he was rearrested for 5 counts of sexual assault on a child, 3 counts of sexual enticement of a child and one count of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16 year old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to, 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican preacher Hewart Lee Bennett arrested for soliciting sex from 16 year old boys while claiming that he did so to gain their trust and then teach them the love of Jesus.
Republican Christian Coalition chair Louis Beres investigated for molesting three female family members as teens.
Republican legislative aide Howard Brooks was charged with molesting a 17 year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13 year old boy.
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with seuxal misconduct involving a 15 year old girl.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
Republican election board official Kevin Koan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14 year old girl.
Republican councilman John Collins pleads guilty to sexually molesting a 13 + 14 year old girls.
Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer (who appeared in an ad blasting Al gore) convicted of molesting 9 yr old girl stepdaughter
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
Republican Committeeman John Curtain charged with molesting a teenage boy.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups Richard A. Dasen Sr. was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15 year old girl for sex. Dasen 62 who is married with grown children and several grandchildren has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 15 year old girl.
Republican spokesman Brian Doyle arrested for trying to seduce a 14 year old girl over the Internet.
Republican director of the Young Republican Federation Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6 year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican congressman Mark Foley resigned from Congress after sending sexually explicit emails to former male pages under the age of 13.
Republican constable Larry Dale Floyd of Denton arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex from an 13 yr old girl.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13 year old girl.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano of Waterbury Connecticut is serving a 37 year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8 and 10 year old girls
Republican activist Marty Glickman convicted in Florida on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican Mayor John Gosek sentenced to jail for soliciting sex from two 15 year old girls.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican President of NYC Housing Development Russell Harding pleads guilty to possession of child pornography on his computer.
Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer”, was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11 year old girl and sentenced to 17 years in prison.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 17 year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz (whom George Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign) surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8 year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican activist Lawrence E. King Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980’s.
Republican Judge Ronald Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation.
Republican Congressman Donald Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in Jail
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican Douglas County election official Pat McPherson arrested for fondling a 17 yr old girl.
Republican anti abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor…
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5 year old girl being raped.\
Republican Judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10 year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican boy scout leader and zoning supervisor Dennis Rader pleaded guilty for performing a sexual act on an 11 year old girl he murdered.
Republican petition leader Tom Randall pleads guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter Susan Smith.
Republican ex congressman Peter Schmitt of Orange County convicted of raping a 6th grader and bearing his two children.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative Larry Jack Schwartz was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15 year old girl.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year old girl and served six months in prison.
Republican party leader Bobby Stumbo arrested for having sex with a five year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartt pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 3 years in prison.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano arrested for sexually molesting a 14 yr old girl.
Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond raped a 15 year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Canderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican consultant Lawrence Scott Ward arrested at Dulles airport after authorities found child pornography and videotapes of him having sex with children.
Republican homophobic mayor Jim West recalled after evidence surfaced that he molested little boys.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican preacher Stephen white (who demanded a return to traditional values) was sentenced to jail after offering $27 to a 14 year old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
Republican activist and James Dobson protege Steve Wilsey convicted of sexual assault after being charged with molesting an 8 year old boy.
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I’d pay good money to be named that.
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and yet you called yourself MaiqTheLiar … wait, I see what you did there.
That is a massive list, and even longer lists are available online. Sickening, really.
But how would that explain why they like Trump so much?
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trump’s projections aren’t even subtle, he’s simply not smart enough for that
anything he accuses other people of doing HE IS DOING
everything, simply everything
my gosh I am so ready for this year to be over and it’s only March
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There doesn’t seem to be anything yet that directly ties this to the Trump administration, but given Prince’s many connections to the Trump administration and family, and connections between the Trump family and James O’Keefe, head of “Project Veritas,” it would be unlikely that the Trump administration wasn’t hiring them for skullduggery. Which would be a bigger scandal, by far, than Watergate.
But the odds are that it won’t be investigated, or if it is, be much of a scandal for Trump because he’s so scandal-ridden that none of it sticks. He does something on almost a weekly basis that, if it were anyone else, would be the end of their political career. (That CDC presser the other day had multiple statements by Trump that should have been the end of his presidency.) It all becomes impossible to track, to remember, to be outraged over. Worse and worse things get revealed, but they’re reduced in their impact because the baseline of “terrible” for Trump makes outrages seem less outrageous. It creates this weirdly high burden of proof (except “proof” is also the level of outrageousness) for taking him to task. The Mueller report shows that multiple members of Trump’s campaign conspired with Russian intelligence, that the campaign as a whole relied on what they provided. Yet it’s forgotten now, dismissed as a non-revelation, that it didn’t indicate what it clearly indicated… It’s maddening.
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Not a yuuge amount by oligarch standards, or even Trump hush money rates.
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“When Veritas sends its people, they’re not sending the best"
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